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The defence of the nonconformists plea for peace, or, An account of the matter…
The defence of the nonconformists plea for peace, or, An account of the matter of their nonconformity against Mr. J. Cheney's answer called The conforming nonconformist, and The nonconforming conformist : to which is added the second part in answer to Mr. Cheney's Five undertakings / by Richard Baxter.
London: printed for Benjamin Alsop, 1680
A DEFENCE OF THE NON-CONFORMIST'S Plea for Peace, AGAINST Mr. J. CH… › Chapter 16
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§ 7. As to the Interrogatories, and Profession, that the Child is said to Repent, Believe, forsake the Devil, Consent, &c. and not only to be the Child of one that Repenteth, Believeth (which is his Title) you say it is but to oblige the Infant: But professing to Believe and Repent at present, and promising to do it hereafter, are different things.
But you say, These words may be submitted to till better may be had.] Ans. And why may you not say so of any Untruth? But the question is, whether they may be Consented to, and approved?
§ 8. As to the great Question, [Whether it be the Intention of the Book that we deny Baptism to such as cannot procure God-Fathers, and God-Mothers, or to such as out of Conscience scruple and refuse to procure them, and will stand as Undertakers themselves▪] You say, No surely.
Ans. Alas, how little know you what the Conformity is which you defend? 1. Are not all Ministers to subscribe to Administer the Sacraments in no other Form than the Liturgy? Canon 36. 2. Doth not the Liturgy make the God-Fathers Office necessary? and a great part of the Baptismal Office is the Ministers Speech to them and their Answer, and the Charge laid on them. Can you say all these words if no Sponsor be there? Or can you have such Answers? 3. Doth not the Church Command that no Parent be God-Father to his own Child, and no Questions or Answers be used but the words of the Liturgy? 4. And did you ever know a Child Baptized without any Sponsor? You rightly call your self The Non-conforming Conformist; for you plead for it and against it, in the same Lines? Your contradiction meeteth through all your Book.