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Full and easy satisfaction which is the true and safe religion in a conference…Full and easie satisfaction which is the true and safe religion in a conference…
Full and easy satisfaction which is the true and safe religion in a conference between D. a doubter, P. a papist, and R. a reformed Catholic Christian : in four parts ... / by Richard Baxter.Full and easie satisfaction which is the true and safe religion in a conference between D. a doubter, P. a papist, and R. a reformed Catholick Christian : in four parts ... / by Richard Baxter.
London: printed for Nev. Simmons, 1674
Part 4 › Chapter 2: The Papists Answers to all this confuted.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
P. VII. Substance is not the proper object of sense, but only Accidents: We see, feel, taste, smell the accidents, but not the substances.
R. 1. If you can name some notional speculator or Word-maker that hath said so, you think you have authority to renounce humanity by it. Call it proper or not-proper, substance is the certain object of sense as clothed with its accidents. Quantity and the res quanta are not two things, but one: And he that feeleth or seeth quantity, feeleth or seeth the rem quantam. He that seeth or feeleth shape or figure, seeth or feeleth the thing figured. He that smelleth odour, smel•eth rem odoratam; He that seeth Colour, seeth the rem coloratam. When to feel the superficies, you feel •he substance. 2. By this we see how by words you will unman mankind. Have you any way of perception of corporal substances but by sense? Do you know that there is any Earth or Water, or any corporal substance in the world, or not? If you do, tell us how you know it but by the perception of sense presenting it to the Intellect? You know that you must thus know it, or not at all. 3. And thus still you would bring men with Scepticism ⟨p. 94⟩to Infidelity. You would teach men, that they that saw Christ were not sure that they saw him or any substance at all, but only the accidents, called Quantity, Shape, Colour, &c. They that saw Apostles, Miracles, Bibles, Councils, were not sure that they saw any more than accidents, &c.
R. 1. If you can name some notional speculator or Word-maker that hath said so, you think you have authority to renounce humanity by it. Call it proper or not-proper, substance is the certain object of sense as cloathed with its accidents. Quantity and the res quanta are not two things, but one: And he that feeleth or seeth quantity, feeleth or seeth the rem quantam. He that seeth or feeleth shape or figure, seeth or feeleth the thing figured. He that smelleth odor, smel•eth rem odoratam; He that seeth Colour, seeth the rem coloratam. When to feel the superficies, you feel he substance. 2. By this we see how by words you will unman mankind. Have you any way of perception of corporal substances but by sense? Do you know that there is any Earth or Water, or any corporal substance in the world, or not? If you do, tell us how you know it but by the erception of sense presenting it to the Intellect? You know that you must thus know it, or not at all. 3. And thus still you would bring men with Scepticism