Full and easy satisfaction which is the true and safe religion in a conference…Full and easie satisfaction which is the true and safe religion in a conference…

D. I know not how to confute what you have said: And yet when I hear them on the other side, me thinks their tale seems fair, and I cannot answer them neither: so that between you both, we that are unlearned are in a sad case, who must thus be tossed up and down by the disputations of disagreeing Priests, so that we know not what a man may say is certain.

D. I know not how to confute what you have said: And yet when I hear them on the other side, me thinks their tale seems fair, and I cannot answer them neither: so that between you both, we that are unlearned are in a sad case, who must thus be tost up and down by the disputations of disagreeing Priests, so that we know not what a man may say is certain.

R. To this I have several things to say; 1. Ordination doth not make men wise, holy, humble and self-denying; but sets such men apart for the sacred office, who seek it, and have tolerable gifts of utterance: And it is too ordinary for worldly minded men, to make a worldly trade of the Priesthood, merely for ease, and wealth, and honour. In which case, do you not think that the Papists who have multitudes of rich benefices, prelacies, preferments, and Church-power, and worldly honour, are liker to be drawn by worldly interest, than such as I that am exceeding glad and thankful, if I might but preach for nothing? 2. Do you lay your faith and salvation upon plausible discourses? and will you be of that mans faith, whom you cannot confute? Then you must be of every mans faith: or indeed of no mans. There are none of all these sects, so hardly confuted, as a Porphyry, a Julian or such like Infidels who dispute against Christ, and the truth of the Scriptures? or such Sadducees as dispute against the Immortality of the soul. Alas, the tattle of Papists, Pelagians, Antinomians, Separatists, Quakers, ⟨p. 154⟩and all such, supposing the truth of the souls Immortality and the Scriptures, is easily resisted and confuted, in comparison of their assaults who deny these our foundations. And will you turn Sadducee▪ Atheist or Infidel because you cannot confute their Sophistry? I tell you, if you knew how much harder it is, to deal with one of these than with a Papist or any other Sectary, you would shake the head, to hear one man dispute for an universal Monarch, and another dispute against a form of prayer, and another whether it be lawful to Communicate with dissenters, &c. while so few of them all can defend their foundations, even the souls Immortality and the Scriptures, nor confute a subtle Infidel or Sadducee. 3. What if we all agreed to say that there is no Bread in the Sacrament after Consecration? Were it ever the truer for that? Will you be deceived as oft as men can but agree to deceive you? There is a far greater party Agreed against Jesus Christ (even five parts of the World) than that which is agreed for him: Will you therefore be against Christ too? There are more Agreed for Mahomet (a gross upstart deceiver) than are agreed for Christ: And doth that make it certain that they are in the right? 4.