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A key for Catholics, to open the juggling of the Jesuits, and satisfy all…A key for Catholicks, to open the jugling of the Jesuits, and satisfie all…
A key for Catholics, to open the juggling of the Jesuits, and satisfy all that are but truly willing to understand, whether the cause of the Roman or reformed churches be of God ... containing some arguments by which the meanest may see the vanity of popery, and 40 detections of their fraud, with directions, and materials sufficient for the confutation of their voluminous deceits ... : the second part showeth (especially against the French and Grotians) that the Catholic Church is not united in any merely humane head, either Pope or council / by Richard Baxter, a Catholic Christian and Pastor of a church ...A key for Catholicks, to open the jugling of the Jesuits, and satisfie all that are but truly willing to understand, whether the cause of the Roman or reformed churches be of God ... containing some arguments by which the meanest may see the vanity of popery, and 40 detections of their fraud, with directions, and materials sufficient for the confutation of their voluminous deceits ... : the second part sheweth (especially against the French and Grotians) that the Catholick Church is not united in any meerly humane head, either Pope or council / by Richard Baxter, a Catholick Christian and Pastor of a church ...
London: printed by R.W. for Nevil Simmons, 1659
Quest. Whether the way to heal any Divisions in the Churches of Chr… › Chapter 1
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He saith (the proof of which we wait for) that I [mistake at once the whole drift of Grotius his excellent Discussio Apol. and that I translate not his Latin into English, or lamely, &c.] Answ. 1. Nothing more easy, then to tell me I mistake! Are not his words plain enough, and frequent enough to open to us so much of his mind as I have charged him with? Let the Readers of his words recited by me, be the Judges: (For him that will believe you, either to save him the labour of reading, or against his eye sight, he is not one of them that I write for; but shall have Liberty for me to be deceived.) 2. That I translated not the words of Grotius, was purposely done, foredeeming that such men as you would have said they were mistranslated, and that they were not his own but mine: I am sure now that I give you but his own: And if you think him wronged if the English Reader know him not, by a Translation, I pray you translate the words your self; for I suppose you will least quarrel with your own. But to pleasure you, I will Translate (as well as I can) the passage which you choose out to defend, and a few more. Discus. Apol. pag. 255. [Those that knew Grotius, know that he always wished for the restitution of Christians into One and the same body: But he sometime thought, even after he was known to the most Illustrious Vairius, that it might be begun by a Conjunction of the Protestants among themselves: Afterwards he saw that this was altogether unfeasible; because, besides that the genius of almost all the Calvinists is most alien from all peace, the Protestants are not joined among themselves by any Common Government of the Church; which are the causes that the parties made cannot be gathered into one Body of Protestants; yea and that more and more parties are ready to rise out of them. Wherefore Grotius now absolutely judgeth, and many with him, that the Protestants canno be joined among themselves, unless at once they be joined to them that cohere to the Sea of Rome: without which there can no common Government be hoped for in the Church. Therefore he wisheth that the divulsion which fell out, and the causes of that divulsion may be taken away. The Primacy of the Bishop of Rome according to the Canons is none of these, as Melanchthon confesseth.] I think this is the English of Grotius words (be it spoken with a Salvo to the preeminence of Mr.
He saith (the proof of which we wait for) that I [mistake at once the whole drift of Grotius his excellent Discussio Apol. and that I translate not his Latine into English, or lamely, &c.] Answ. 1. Nothing more easie, then to tell me I mistake! Are not his words plain enough, and frequent enough to open to us so much of his mind as I have charged him with? Let the Readers of his words recited by me, be the Judges: (For him that will believe you, either to save him the labour of reading, or against his eye sight, he is not one of them that I write for; but shall have Liberty for me to be deceived.) 2. That I translated not the words of Grotius, was purposely done, foredeeming that such men as you would have said they were mistranslated, and that they were not his own but mine: I am sure now that I give you but his own: And if you think him wronged if the English Reader know him not, by a Translation, I pray you translate the words your self; for I suppose you will least quarrel with your own. But to pleasure you, I will Translate (as well as I can) the passage which you choose out to defend, and a few more. Discus. Apol. pag. 255. [Those that knew Grotius, know that he alwayes wished for the restitution of Christians into One and the same body: But he sometime thought, even after he was known to the most Illustrious Vairius, that it might be begun by a Conjunction of the Protestants among themselves: Afterwards he saw that this was altogether unfeasible; because, besides that the genius of almost all the Calvinists is most alien from all peace, the Protestants are not joyned among themselves by any Common Government of the Church; which are the causes that the parties made cannot be gathered into one Body of Protestants; yea and that more and more parties are ready to rise out of them. Wherefore Grotius now absolutely judgeth, and many with him, that the Protestants canno be joined among themselves, unless at once they be joined to them that cohere to the Sea of Rome: without which there can no common Government be hoped for in the Church. Therefore he wisheth that the divulsion which fell out, and the causes of that divulsion may be taken away. The Primacy of the Bishop of Rome according to the Canons is none of these, as Melanchton confesseth.] I think this is the English of Grotius words (be it spoken with a Salvo to the preheminence of Mr.