§ 84. And not long after, hearing that the Countess of Balcarres was not well, I went to visit her, and found her grievously afflicted for her eldest Daughter, the Lady Ann Lindsey about sixteen or seventeen Years of Age, who was suddenly turned Papist by she knew not whom. She told me, that when she first heard of it she desired Dr. Gunning to meet with the Priest to dispute with him, and try if her Daughter might be recovered, who pretended then to be in Doubt: And that Dr. Gunning first began to persuade her Daughter against the Church of Scotland which she had been bred in, as no true Church, and after disputed but about the Pope's Infallibility, and •eft her Daughter worse than before; and that she took it to be a strange way to deliver her Daughter from Popery, to begin with a Condemnation of the Reformed Churches as no true Churches, and confess that the Church and Ministry of Rome was true. She desired me that I would speak to her Daughter, and try whether she would yet enter into Conference about the Reason of her Faith. But she utterly refused it, and would say nothing to that purpose, but refer us to the Church, and profess her acquiescence in its Judgment, and when I desired to know of her, how she knew what was the Judgment of the Church; whether it were not merely the Word […] the Priest that satisfied her in this, and therefore desired her that she would hear that Priest or Jesuit on whose Word she built all her Faith, in the Presence of some one that was fit to help her in the Trial of his Assertions, and entreated her to procure a Conference in her hearing between him and me, she promised readily that it should be done. The next time I came again, and asked whether she had spoke with him about it, and whether time and place were agreed on; she confidently told me that he was ready to do it when I pleased, and that all he desired was, that my Promise might secure him from Accusation, and from the danger of the Law, and that was all that he was solicitous for. I offered her to bring only two Witnesses on each side, and that we might have two days Conference or Dispute; in one of which he should give his Reasons why she ought to change her Religion, and I would answer them; and in the other I would give my Reasons why she ought not to change, and he should answer me;
§ 84. And not long after, hearing that the Countess of Balcarres was not well, I went to visit her, and found her grievously afflicted for her eldest Daughter, the Lady Ann Lindsey about sixteen or seventeen Years of Age, who was suddenly turned Papist by she knew not whom. She told me, that when she first heard of it she desired Dr. Gunning to meet with the Priest to dispute with him, and try if her Daughter might be recovered, who pretended then to be in Doubt: And that Dr. Gunning first began to persuade her Daughter against the Church of Scotland which she had been bred in, as no true Church, and after disputed but about the Pope's Infallability, and •eft her Daughter worse than before; and that she took it to be a strange way to deliver her Daughter from Popery, to begin with a Condemnation of the Reformed Churches as no true Churches, and confess that the Church and Ministry of Rome was true. She desired me that I would speak to her Daughter, and try whether she would yet enter into Conference about the Reason of her Faith. But she utterly refused it, and would say nothing to that purpose, but refer us to the Church, and profess her acquiescence in its Judgment, and when I desired to know of her, how she knew what was the Judgment of the Church; whether it were not meerly the Word 〈…〉 the Priest that satisfied her in this, and therefore desired her that she would hear that Priest or Jesuit on whose Word she built all her Faith, in the Presence of some one that was fit to help her in the Tryal of his Assertions, and intreated her to procure a Conference in her hearing between him and me, she promised readily that it should be done. The next time I came again, and askt whether she had spoke with him about it, and whether time and place were agreed on; she confidently told me that he was ready to do it when I pleased, and that all he desired was, that my Promise might secure him from Accusation, and from the danger of the Law, and that was all that he was solicitous for. I offered her to bring only two Witnesses on each side, and that we might have two days Conference or Dispute; in one of which he should give his Reasons why she ought to change her Religion, and I would answer them; and in the other I would give my Reasons why she ought not to change, and he should answer me;
