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A second admonition to Mr. Edward Bagshaw written to call him to repentance for…
A second admonition to Mr. Edward Bagshaw written to call him to repentance for many false doctrines, crimes, and specially fourscore palpable untruths in matter of fact ... : with a confutation of his reasons for separation ... / by Richard Baxter ...
London: printed for Nevill Simmons, 1671
A second Admonition to Mr. Edward Bagshaw written in some hope of c… › Section 41
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4. Most that I speak of did enter into the Ministry in the Presbyterian or Independent way heretofore, and do but continue on the terms which I dissent from as well as you. How then can you say they unduly enter into the Ministry?
4. Most that I speak of did enter into the Ministry in the Presbyterian or Independent way heretofore, and do but continue on the terms which I dissent from as well as you. How then can you say they unduely enter into the Ministry?
5. Did you know before you wrote this, that all such as we persuade men to hear, have by Oath renounced their Christian Liberty? what Oath is it that you mean? If you mean the Oath of Supremacy or Allegiance, unless Popery be Christian Liberty, we know of none such which these renounce. And I know of no other Oath, except that of Canonical obedience in licitis & honestis. And for that, 1. I find not that the Act, or Canons do impose it on those that come for Ordination; (nor am so well skilled in the Law as to know by what Law it is done;) 2. I know that men have been ordinarily ordained without it. And to such your reason for separation is vain. 3. Mr. Bradshaw and other old Non-conformists were wont to say that they obeyed the Diocesans, and so did promise them obedience, only as they are the Kings Officers, deputed for the exercise of that Civil or Coercive power which Magistrates have in Causes called Ecclesiastical. And what Liberty doth that give away?
5. Did you know before you wrote this, that all such as we perswade men to hear, have by Oath renounced their Christian Liberty? what Oath is it that you mean? If you mean the Oath of Supremacy or Allegiance, unless Popery be Christian Liberty, we know of none such which these renounce. And I know of no other Oath, except that of Canonical obedience in licitis & honestis. And for that, 1. I find not that the Act, or Canons do impose it on those that come for Ordination; (nor am so well skil'd in the Law as to know by what Law it is done;) 2. I know that men have been ordinarily ordained without it. And to such your reason for separation is vain. 3. Mr. Bradshaw and other old Non-conformists were wont to say that they obeyed the Diocesanes, and so did promise them obedience, only as they are the Kings Officers, deputed for the exercise of that Civil or Coercive power which Magistrates have in Causes called Ecclesiastical. And what Liberty doth that give away?