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A second true defence of the mere nonconformists against the untrue accusations, reasonings, and…A second true defence of the meer nonconformists against the untrue accusations, reasonings, and…
A second true defence of the mere nonconformists against the untrue accusations, reasonings, and history of Dr. Edward Stillingfleet ... clearly proving that it is (not sin but) duty 1. not wilfully to commit the many sins of conformity, 2. not sacrilegiously to forsake the preaching of the Gospel, 3. not to cease public worshipping of God, 4. to use needful pastoral helps for salvation ... / written by Richard Baxter ... ; with some notes on Mr. Joseph Glanviles Zealous and impartial Protestant, and Dr. L. Moulins character.A second true defence of the meer nonconformists against the untrue accusations, reasonings, and history of Dr. Edward Stillingfleet ... clearly proving that it is (not sin but) duty 1. not wilfully to commit the many sins of conformity, 2. not sacrilegiously to forsake the preaching of the Gospel, 3. not to cease publick worshipping of God, 4. to use needful pastoral helps for salvation ... / written by Richard Baxter ... ; with some notes on Mr. Joseph Glanviles Zealous and impartial Protestant, and Dr. L. Moulins character.
London: printed for Nevil Simons, 1681
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Sect. 38. He is again at his talk of only occasional Communion? And had his mistake no Occasion? yes; he that readeth my Books may see what: that is, 1. When I have said that some Parishes having not capable or called Pastors I take to be no true Political Churches; but yet can communicate with such as Oratories or Chapels. 2. That some true Churches I communicate with in transitu or occasionally as strangers, whose Discipline and Ministers Calling I am not bound to take account of. 3. I tell those that withdraw too far and take some true Churches for none, that were it so they might occasionally join with them as Oratories, 4. And those that dare not commit their Souls to the Pastoral Conduct of some weak and bad men, that yet they may occasionally communicate with them upon great and urgent Reasons. And here he gathereth his oft repeated untrue Reports.
Sect. 38. He is again at his talk of only occasional Communion? And had his mistake no Occasion? yes; he that readeth my Books may see what: that is, 1. When I have said that some Parishes having not capable or called Pastors I take to be no true Political Churches; but yet can communicate with such as Oratories or Chappels. 2. That some true Churches I communicate with in transitu or occasionally as strangers, whose Discipline and Ministers Calling I am not bound to take account of. 3. I tell those that withdraw too far and take some true Churches for none, that were it so they might occasionally join with them as Oratories, 4. And those that dare not commit their Souls to the Pastoral Conduct of some weak and bad men, that yet they may occasionally communicate with them upon great and urgent Reasons. And here he gathereth his oft repeated untrue Reports.
Sect. 39. p. 156. He grants there is no Separation where there is no Obligation. And he will prove us obliged to constant Communion with them. 1. Because we must use all lawful means for Peace and Unity. Ans. 1. We are ready to prove that our Conformity, nor our forbearing to preach the Gospel are no lawful means. 2. Can you as well prove, 1. That it is not lawful for you to join with us? 2. And to forbear silencing, excommunicating, fining and imprisoning us? Was it no lawful means for Peace and Unity to have forborne imposing all the Covenants, Professions, Subscriptions, Oaths and Practises, of what you call indifferent and we think sinful? 3. And is it not lawful for Parents to enter their own Children at Baptism in Covenant with God? 4. Is it unlawful to Christen such as scruple your use of the Cross? 5. Or to receive those to Communion that scruple your Gesture? 6. […] forbear Canonical Excommunicating all professed Nonconformi Land? 7. Or to let Lords and Gentlemen choose any Nonconfo to be Tutors to their Children, whilst the Papists may send theirs to Douai, St. Omers, &c. He saith, he is [persuaded it is one of the provoking sins of the Nonconformists, that they have been so backward to do, what they were convinced they might with a good conscience. Ans. Woe to us, if we be not willing to know our sins. But 1. If you will tell me of any one lawful thing that I have omitted, that tended to Peace, I will thank you. 2. An indifferent thing is no means of Peace when it will do more hurt than good. To cease the Ministry we durst not: To use some indifferent forms in your Churches we could not, being cast and kept out. And to use the same to those that are against them; when it will hurt them, and procure no peace with you, and those have sped worst from you that have come nearest you, and nothing will serve but all; what tendency