A27045:242
The successive visibility of the church of which the Protestants are the soundest members…
The successive visibility of the church of which the Protestants are the soundest members I. defended against the opposition of Mr. William Johnson, II. proved by many arguments / by Richard Baxter ; whereunto is added 1. an account of my judgement to Mr. J. how far heretics are or are not in the church, 2. Mr. Js. explication of the most used terms, with my queries thereupon, and his answer and my reply, 3. an appendix about successive ordination, 4. letters between me and T.S., a papist, with a narrative of the success.The successive visibility of the church of which the Protestants are the soundest members I. defended against the opposition of Mr. William Johnson, II. proved by many arguments / by Richard Baxter ; whereunto is added 1. an account of my judgement to Mr. J. how far hereticks are or are not in the church, 2. Mr. Js. explication of the most used terms, with my queries thereupon, and his answer and my reply, 3. an appendix about successive ordination, 4. letters between me and T.S., a papist, with a narrative of the success.
London: printed by R.W. for Nevil Simmons, 1660
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4. But you ask again [Did those Heathen Emperors give it him?] Answ. 1. Power over all Churches none ever gave him, till titularly his own Parasites of late. 2. Primacy of mere degree in the Empire, for the dignity and many advantages of the Imperial seat, the Bishops of the Empire gave him by consent (Blondel de primatu, gives you the proof and reason at large:) yet so as that [small regard was had to the Church of Rome before the Nicene Council] as saith your Aeneas Sylvius, Pope Pius the second.
4. But you ask again [Did those Heathen Emperours give it him?] Answ. 1. Power over all Churches none ever gave him, till titularly his own Parasites of late. 2. Primacy of meer degree in the Empire, for the dignity and many advantages of the Emperial seat, the Bishops of the Empire gave him by consent (Blondel de primatu, gives you the proof and reason at large:) yet so as that [small regard was had to the Church of Rome before the Nicene Council] as saith your Aeneas Sylvius, Pope Pius the second.
5. [Whether the Bishop of Rome had power over the Bishop of Arles by Heathen Emperors,] is a frivolous question. Arles was in the Roman Patriarchate, and not out of the Empire. The Churches in the Empire, might by consent dispose themselves into the Patriarchal orders, without the Emperors, and yet not meddle out of the Empire. Yet indeed Cyprian's words intimate no power Rome had over Arles, more then Arles had over Rome: that is, to reject communion with each other upon ⟨p. 105⟩dissent. Nay it more confuteth you, that even under Heathen Emperors, when Church associations were by voluntary consent of Pastors only; and so if they had thought it necessary, they might have extended them to other Principalities: yet de facto they did not do it, as all history of the Church declareth, mentioning their Councils and associations, without these taken in.
5. [Whether the Bishop of Rome had power over the Bishop of Arles by Heathen Emperours,] is a frivolous question. Arles was in the Roman Patriarchate, and not out of the Empire. The Churches in the Empire, might by consent dispose themselves into the Patriarchal orders, without the Emperours, and yet not meddle out of the Empire. Yet indeed Cyprians words intimate no power Rome had over Arles, more then Arles had over Rome: that is, to reject communion with each other upon