A27045:243
The successive visibility of the church of which the Protestants are the soundest members…
The successive visibility of the church of which the Protestants are the soundest members I. defended against the opposition of Mr. William Johnson, II. proved by many arguments / by Richard Baxter ; whereunto is added 1. an account of my judgement to Mr. J. how far heretics are or are not in the church, 2. Mr. Js. explication of the most used terms, with my queries thereupon, and his answer and my reply, 3. an appendix about successive ordination, 4. letters between me and T.S., a papist, with a narrative of the success.The successive visibility of the church of which the Protestants are the soundest members I. defended against the opposition of Mr. William Johnson, II. proved by many arguments / by Richard Baxter ; whereunto is added 1. an account of my judgement to Mr. J. how far hereticks are or are not in the church, 2. Mr. Js. explication of the most used terms, with my queries thereupon, and his answer and my reply, 3. an appendix about successive ordination, 4. letters between me and T.S., a papist, with a narrative of the success.
London: printed by R.W. for Nevil Simmons, 1660
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5. [Whether the Bishop of Rome had power over the Bishop of Arles by Heathen Emperors,] is a frivolous question. Arles was in the Roman Patriarchate, and not out of the Empire. The Churches in the Empire, might by consent dispose themselves into the Patriarchal orders, without the Emperors, and yet not meddle out of the Empire. Yet indeed Cyprian's words intimate no power Rome had over Arles, more then Arles had over Rome: that is, to reject communion with each other upon ⟨p. 105⟩dissent. Nay it more confuteth you, that even under Heathen Emperors, when Church associations were by voluntary consent of Pastors only; and so if they had thought it necessary, they might have extended them to other Principalities: yet de facto they did not do it, as all history of the Church declareth, mentioning their Councils and associations, without these taken in.
5. [Whether the Bishop of Rome had power over the Bishop of Arles by Heathen Emperours,] is a frivolous question. Arles was in the Roman Patriarchate, and not out of the Empire. The Churches in the Empire, might by consent dispose themselves into the Patriarchal orders, without the Emperours, and yet not meddle out of the Empire. Yet indeed Cyprians words intimate no power Rome had over Arles, more then Arles had over Rome: that is, to reject communion with each other upon ⟨p. 105⟩dissent. Nay it more confuteth you, that even under Heathen Emperours, when Church associations were by voluntary consent of Pastors only; and so if they had thought it necessary, they might have extended them to other Principalities: yet de facto they did not do it, as all history of the Church declareth, mentioning their Councils and associations, without these taken in.
See now how little your objections are worth; and how groundlessly you bid me [See now how little my allegations are to the purpose.]
See now how little your objections are worth; and how groundlesly you bid me [See now how little my allegations are to the purpose.]