A27045:261
The successive visibility of the church of which the Protestants are the soundest members…
The successive visibility of the church of which the Protestants are the soundest members I. defended against the opposition of Mr. William Johnson, II. proved by many arguments / by Richard Baxter ; whereunto is added 1. an account of my judgement to Mr. J. how far heretics are or are not in the church, 2. Mr. Js. explication of the most used terms, with my queries thereupon, and his answer and my reply, 3. an appendix about successive ordination, 4. letters between me and T.S., a papist, with a narrative of the success.The successive visibility of the church of which the Protestants are the soundest members I. defended against the opposition of Mr. William Johnson, II. proved by many arguments / by Richard Baxter ; whereunto is added 1. an account of my judgement to Mr. J. how far hereticks are or are not in the church, 2. Mr. Js. explication of the most used terms, with my queries thereupon, and his answer and my reply, 3. an appendix about successive ordination, 4. letters between me and T.S., a papist, with a narrative of the success.
London: printed by R.W. for Nevil Simmons, 1660
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
When you say so much to prove the Greeks guilty of manifest Heresy, and pretend that it is but some novel writers of ours that deny it, as forced by your arguments.] I must say, that you prove but your own uncharitableness instead of their Heresy: and you show your self a stranger to your own writers, who frequently excuse the Greeks from Heresy, and say the difference at the Council of Florence was found to be more about words then faith. Thomas a ⟨p. 119⟩Jesu de Convers. omn. gentium, lib. 6. cap. 8. p. 281. saith, [His tamen non obstantibus alii opinantur Graecos tantum esse schismaticos: Ita ex junioribus docet Pater Azorius 1. primae Institut. Moral. lib. 8. cap. 20. q. 10. Quare merito ab Ecclesia Catholica non haeretici, sed schismatici censentur & appellantur: Ita apert insinuat D. Bernardus (no Novel Protestant) in Epist. ad Eugenium, lib. 3. [Ego addo (inquit) de pertinacia Graecorum qui nobiscum sunt, & non sunt: juncti fide, pace divisi; quanquam & in fide ipsa claudicaverint à rectis semitis.] Idem aperte tenet D. Thomas Opuscul. 2. ubi docet patres Graecos in Catholico sensu esse exponendos. Ratio hujus Opinionis est quoniam ut praedictus author docet, in praedictis fidei articulis, de quibus Graeci accusantur ab aliquibus ut haeretici, potius Nomine, quam Re ab Ecclesia Romana dissident. Inprimis inficiantur illi Spiritum Sanctum à Patre Filioque procedere ut in Bulla Unionis Eugenii 4. dicitur, existimantes Latinos sentire à Patre Filioque procedere tanquam à duobus principiis; cum tamen Latina doceat Ecclesia procedere à duabus personis tanquam ab uno principio & spiratore; quare Graeci ut unum principium significent, dicunt Spiritum Sanctum à Patre per Filium procedere ab omni aeternitate.]
When you say so much to prove the Greeks guilty of manifest Heresie, and pretend that it is but some novel writers of ours that deny it, as forced by your arguments.] I must say, that you prove but your own uncharitableness instead of their Heresie: and you shew your self a stranger to your own writers, who frequently excuse the Greeks from Heresie, and say the difference at the Council of Florence was found to be more about words then faith. Thomas a ⟨p. 119⟩Iesu de Convers. omn. gentium, lib. 6. cap. 8. p. 281. saith, [His tamen non obstantibus alii opinantur Graecos tantum esse schismaticos: Ita ex junioribus docet Pater Azorius 1. primae Institut. Moral. lib. 8. cap. 20. q. 10. Quare merito ab Ecclesia Catholica non haeretici, sed schismatici censentur & appellantur: Ita apert insinuat D. Bernardus (no Novel Protestant) in Epist. ad Eugenium, lib. 3. [Ego addo (inquit) de pertinacia Graecorum qui nobiscum sunt, & non sunt: juncti fide, pace divisi; quanquam & in fide ipsa claudicaverint à rectis semitis.] Idem aperte tenet D. Thomas Opuscul. 2. ubi docet patres Graecos in Catholico sensu esse exponendos. Ratio hujus Opinionis est quoniam ut praedictus author docet, in praedictis fidei articulis, de quibus Graeci accusantur ab aliquibus ut haeretici, potius Nomine, quam Re ab Ecclesia Romana dissident. Inprimis inficiantur illi Spiritum Sanctum à Patre Filioque procedere ut in Bulla Vnionis Eugenii 4. dicitur, existimantes Latinos sentire à Patre Filioque procedere tanquam à duobus principiis; cum tamen Latina doceat Ecclesia procedere à duabus personis tanquam ab uno principio & spiratore; quare Graeci ut unum principium significent, dicunt Spiritum Sanctum à Patre per Filium procedere ab omni aeternitate.]