A27045:298
The successive visibility of the church of which the Protestants are the soundest members…
The successive visibility of the church of which the Protestants are the soundest members I. defended against the opposition of Mr. William Johnson, II. proved by many arguments / by Richard Baxter ; whereunto is added 1. an account of my judgement to Mr. J. how far heretics are or are not in the church, 2. Mr. Js. explication of the most used terms, with my queries thereupon, and his answer and my reply, 3. an appendix about successive ordination, 4. letters between me and T.S., a papist, with a narrative of the success.The successive visibility of the church of which the Protestants are the soundest members I. defended against the opposition of Mr. William Johnson, II. proved by many arguments / by Richard Baxter ; whereunto is added 1. an account of my judgement to Mr. J. how far hereticks are or are not in the church, 2. Mr. Js. explication of the most used terms, with my queries thereupon, and his answer and my reply, 3. an appendix about successive ordination, 4. letters between me and T.S., a papist, with a narrative of the success.
London: printed by R.W. for Nevil Simmons, 1660
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5. You say the Popes Legates pronounced the Church of Rome to be Caput omnium Ecclesiarum] Reply. 1. What then? therefore he was Governor of all the Christian world? I deny the consequence. You do nothing but beg: not a word of proof. Caput was but membrum principal, the Patriarch primae sedes, and that but in the Empire. 2. The Popes Legates were not the Council, nor judges in their own cause, and not opposing, signifies not always a consent. 3. But the Council do as I said, expressly define the point, both what your Primacy is, and of how long standing, and of ⟨p. 157⟩whose institution, and that Constantinople on the same grounds had equal privileges.
5. You say the Popes Legates pronounced the Church of Rome to be Caput omnium Ecclesiarum] Reply. 1. What then? therefore he was Governour of all the Christian world? I deny the consequence. You do nothing but beg: not a word of proof. Caput was but membrum principale, the Patriarch primae sedes, and that but in the Empire. 2. The Popes Legates were not the Council, nor judges in their own cause, and not opposing, signifies not alwayes a consent. 3. But the Council do as I said, expresly define the point, both what your Primacy is, and of how long standing, and of ⟨p. 157⟩whose institution, and that Constantinople on the same grounds had equall priviledges.
6. You say, all the Fathers acknowledged themselves Leo's Children, and wrote to him as their Father.] Reply. Of this you give me not any proof, but leave me to read 190 pages in Folio, to see whether you say true or no. And what if you do, (as I believe you do) can a man of any reading be ignorant how ordinarily other Bishops were styled Fathers, even by their fellow-Bishops as well as the Bishop of Rome?
6. You say, all the Fathers acknowledged thtmselves Leo's Children, and wrote to him as their Father.] Reply. Of this you give me not any proof, but leave me to read 190 pages in Folio, to see whether you say true or no. And what if you do, (as I believe you do) can a man of any reading be ignorant how ordinarily other Bishops were stiled Fathers, even by their fellow-Bishops as well as the Bishop of Rome?