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The true history of councils enlarged and defended against the deceits of a pretended…
The true history of councils enlarged and defended against the deceits of a pretended vindicator of the primitive church, but indeed of the tympanite & tyranny of some prelates many hundred years after Christ, with a detection of the false history of Edward Lord Bishop of Cork and Ross in Ireland ... and a preface abbreviating much of Ludolphus's History of Habassta : written to show their dangerous error, who think that a general council, or college of bishops, is a supreme governor of all the Christian world ... / by Richard Baxter ... ; to which is added by another hand, a defence of a book, entitled, No evidence for diocesan churches ...The true history of councils enlarged and defended against the deceits of a pretended vindicator of the primitive church, but indeed of the tympanite & tyranny of some prelates many hundred years after Christ, with a detection of the false history of Edward Lord Bishop of Corke and Rosse in Ireland ... and a preface abbreviating much of Ludolphus's History of Habassta : written to shew their dangerous errour, who think that a general council, or colledge of bishops, is a supream governour of all the Christian world ... / by Richard Baxter ... ; to which is added by another hand, a defence of a book, entituled, No evidence for diocesan churches ...
London: printed for Tho. Parkhurst, 1682
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§ 13. Next he scorningly accuseth me for giving too soft a Character of the Circumcellians; and saith, My Moderation and Charity may extend to John of Leiden. And he calls them The Most barbarous and desperate Villains that ever defamed Christianity by assuming the Title.]
§ 13. Next he scorningly accuseth me for giving too soft a Character of the Circumcellians; and saith, My Moderation and Charity may extend to John of Leyden. And he calls them The Most barbarous and desperate Villains that ever defamed Christianity by assuming the Title.]
Ans. 1. This is the man that saith I rail. I named so many and great sins of theirs, that I little thought any Reader would have thought that I spared them too much. 2. Yet they were Donatists, and of them Optatus himself saith, lib. 5. [Apud vos ⟨p. 133⟩& apud nos Una est Ecclesiastica conversatio; Communes Lectiones: Eadem Fides; ipsa Fidei Sacramenta, eadem mysteria] that is, saith Albaspine [Una Ecclesiastica disciplina: Eodem modo Scripturas Explicamus: Ipsa Regula Fidei: Idem Mysterium quod confertur & significatur, & eadem res visibilis per quam res spiritualis datur] in lib. 5. p. 153.
And saith Optatus, lib. 1. [Nequis dicat me inconsiderate eos fratres appellare, qui tales sunt. Quamvis & illi non negent & omnibus notum sit, quod nos odio habeant, & execrentur, & nolunt see dioi fratres nostros; tamen nos recedere à timore Dei non possumus—sunt igitur sine dubio fratres quamvis non boni: Quare nemo miretur eos me appellare fratres, qui non possant non esse fratres.
And saith Optatus, lib. 1. [Nequis dicat me inconsiderate eos fratres appellare, qui tales sunt. Quamvis & illi non negent & omnibus notum sit, quod nos odio habeant, & execrentur, & nolunt se dioi fratres nostros; tamen nos recedere à timore Dei non possumus—sunt igitur sine dubio fratres quamvis non boni: Quare nemo miretur eos me appellare fratres, qui non possant non esse fratres.