R. B. 1. You say that there is no need of Revelation to know the Church-Governors: therefore they are not of Gods making, unless it be jure naturali; which none pretend. For God no way giveth right but by natural evidence of this will, or by Revelation, (either natural in the constitution of the Creatures, or natural by Providential alterations, or by Supernatural notice.) 2. If God have not annexed the power to any one sort of Electors choice, or have given no power to any determinate persons to choose a Pope, nor to any to choose the Choosers, then either God giveth no power to the Pope, or else he giveth Papal power to every one that shall be chosen by whomsoever: The later you abhor, for then any man might be Pope at his pleasure, and there might be a thousand at once. The former consequence is plain, because if God make not every man a Pope, but one man in the world; the Donation of God must by God be some way applied to that person rather than to others: Now if God hath neither empowered any determinate (or specified) persons to elect him rather than others, nor any to elect Electors, nor yet made the Consecrators the determining appliers, there is no way by which God applieth it more to that man than to others. You neither do nor can name any other way. Now you confess that God hath not given the power of Election to any determinate persons, but that the Electors may be sometimes people, sometime Presbyters, or both; sometime Princes, sometime Bishops sometime Cardinals. All that God saith you hold, is that they be competent. But this determineth of none. And you neither do, nor can tell us to whom God hath given the power to judg antecedently of the Electors competency, and to choose the choosing persons, without which it will never be any mans work, unless all that think themselves competent may choose Popes. You dare not undertake to tell us, whether it be all the Christian world, or only the City of Rome, Princes, Prelates, Presbyters people, or who, that God hath made choosers of the choosers So that you cannot say that God giveth the Pope his power by your way.
R. B. 1. You say that there is no need of Revelation to know the Church-Governours: therefore they are not of Gods making, unless it be jure naturali; which none pretend. For God no way giveth right but by natural evidence of this will, or by Revelation, (either natural in the constitution of the Creatures, or natural by Providential alterations, or by Supernatural notice.) 2. If God have not annexed the power to any one sort of Electors choice, or have given no power to any determinate persons to choose a Pope, nor to any to choose the Choosers, then either God giveth no power to the Pope, or else he giveth Papal power to every one that shall be chosen by whomsoever: The later you abhor, for then any man might be Pope at his pleasure, and there might be a thousand at once. The former consequence is plain, because if God make not every man a Pope, but one man in the world; the Donation of God must by God be some way applied to that person rather than to others: Now if God hath neither impowred any determinate (or specified) persons to elect him rather than others, nor any to elect Electors, nor yet made the Consecrators the determining appliers, there is no way by which God applieth it more to that man than to others. You neither do nor can name any other way. Now you confess that God hath not given the power of Election to any determinate persons, but that the Electors may be sometimes people, sometime Presbyters, or both; sometime Princes, sometime Bishops sometime Cardinals. All that God saith you hold, is that they be competent. But this determineth of none. And you neither do, nor can tell us to whom God hath given the power to judg antecedently of the Electors competency, and to choose the choosing persons, without which it will never be any mans work, unless all that think themselves competent may choose Popes. You dare not undertake to tell us, whether it be all the Christian world, or only the City of Rome, Princes, Prelates, Presbyters people, or who, that God hath made choosers of the choosers So that you cannot say that God giveth the Pope his power by your way.