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An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English…An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English…
An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessity of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. John Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulness of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithful servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. Iohn Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulnesse of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithfull servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.
London: printed by R.B., 1642
Chapter 1 › Section 4 › CAN. Stay against Stray. Sect. 3, pag. 17, 18. › ANSWER.
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2 Suppose our Church and Ministry be an Idol in some respect, it is not a real Idol, but Metaphorical, not absolute, but in some consideration: for the Word preached, and the Sacraments Administered in our societies, are the true Gospel, and entire Sacraments of Jesus Christ; which could not be, if our Church and Ministry was absolutely an Idol, a mere nothing. But to draw illimited conclusions, from a real Idol, to a Metaphorical, from an absolute Idol, to an Idol in some consideration or respect, is a new Logic never taught in the Schools, nor learned from the Scriptures.
2 Suppose our Church and Ministerie be an Idoll in some respect, it is not a reall Idoll, but Metaphoricall, not absolute, but in some consideration: for the Word preached, and the Sacraments Administred in our societies, are the true Gospel, and intire Sacraments of Jesus Christ; which could not be, if our Church and Ministery was absolutely an Idoll, a meere nothing. But to draw illimited conclusions, from a reall Idoll, to a Metaphoricall, from an absolute Idoll, to an Idoll in some consideration or respect, is a new Logick never taught in the Schooles, nor learned from the Scriptures.
The idle, 1careless, unprofitable covetous, pro•d, scandalous shepherd, who filleth the room, but doth not the office of a shepherd, is an Idol shepherd: But the faithful were not to fly from them, both in mind and body, so as to have no communion with them in the Ordinances of God.
The idle, 1carelesse, unprofitable co•etous, pro•d, scandalous shepheard, who filleth the roome, but doth not the office of a shepheard, is an Idoll shepheard: But the faithfull were not to flie from them, both in minde and body, so as to have no communion with them in the Ordinances of God.