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An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English…An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English…
An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessity of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. John Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulness of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithful servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. Iohn Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulnesse of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithfull servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.
London: printed by R.B., 1642
Chapter 1 › Section 4 › Can. Stay. Sect. 3. Pag. 19. › ANSWER.
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ANSWER.
God hath separated unto himself a Church, and amongst them he is to be worshipped according to his own appointment. But this Church is of larger extent than that which you ⟨p. 62⟩call a true constituted Church; we read that the Lord did choose a certain place for sacrifices, 1after which it was unlawful to sacrifice in any other; and so we read also that the remaindes of the Paschal Lamb was to be burnt and the flesh of the Ram of Consecration with the bread that remained unto the morning, 2and the flesh of the peace-offering: But that all Ordinances of the Church done out of a true constituted Church, in your sense, should be altogether unlawful, or that the Ordinances are tied to your Church constitution, as the Sacrifices were to the Temple, that we read not: and how then shall we be persuaded of it? Remember your own request. Let the Scripture speak in the points between us, for without it nothing is to be affirmed, and beyond it nothing to be concluded.
God hath separated unto himselfe a Church, and amongst them hee is to bee worshipped according to his owne appointment. But this Church is of larger extent than that which you ⟨p. 62⟩call a true constituted Church; wee reade that the Lord did chuse a certaine place for sacrifices, 1after which it was unlawfull to sacrifice in any other; and so we read also that the remaindes of the Paschall Lamb was to be burnt and the flesh of the Ramme of Consecration with the bread that remained unto the morning, 2and the flesh of the peace-offering: But that all Ordinances of the Church done out of a true constituted Church, in your sense, should be altogether unlawfull, or that the Ordinances are tyed to your Church constitution, as the Sacrifices were to the Temple, that we reade not: and how then shall we be perswaded of it? Remember your owne request. Let the Scripture speake in the points betweene us, for without it nothing is to be affirmed, and beyond it nothing to be concluded.