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An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English…An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English…
An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessity of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. John Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulness of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithful servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. Iohn Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulnesse of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithfull servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.
London: printed by R.B., 1642
Chapter 1 › Section 5 › CAN Stay. Sect. 15. pag 133. › ANSWER.
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The liberty of mans will and dignity of works was too much advanced: Many thought the souls of the just should not see God until the day of judgement. The Sacrament of the Supper was ministered to infants, which abuse is reformed ⟨p. 84⟩by the Church of Rome her self: They dipped the Sacramental bread into the Wine sometimes, and so administered them together. 1They carried it home with them, and laid it up in Chests to be received privately; Wine was mixed with water in the administration of the Sacrament of the Supper. Deacons preached. Women Baptized, Baptism was stained with superstitious rites and Ceremonies in daily use, many rites and Customs practised which had no ground in the Word of God, and sundry things observed as Apostolical, which were directly contrary to the Apostles Doctrine or example. Within two hundred years after Christ, there was crept into the Church many idle Ceremonies, and the simplicity of Christs Ordinances refused. Each man as he had either credit or authority, presumed of himself to add somewhat to Christs institution, and the flesh delighting in her own devices, 2delivered the same with a strait charge, as if Christ Himself had taken order for it. In Tertullians time we may find many strange inventions taken up in Baptism. Three dippings in the Water; Tasting Milk and Honey; Abstaining from all other washing for a seven night after. 3In Cyprian's time there was consecration of water, and such estimation of oil, that no man was thought to be a Christian, that was baptised without it: of the memorials of Martyrs; and what blemishes appeared in the conversation of Christians, who list may read in Cyprian and others.4
The liberty of mans will and dignity of workes was too much advanced: Many thought the soules of the just should not see God untill the day of judgement. The Sacrament of the Supper was ministred to infants, which abuse is reformed ⟨p. 84⟩by the Church of Rome her selfe: They dipped the Sacramentall bread into the Wine sometimes, and so administred them together.