A30189:419
An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English…An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English…
An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessity of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. John Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulness of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithful servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. Iohn Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulnesse of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithfull servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.
London: printed by R.B., 1642
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
And I might truly say unto you in your own words. 1Have you not here showed your self an acute disputer, for to pull down Bethel you build Babel; to condemn the true hearing of Gods Word, you commend Idolatry. Consider therefore your own reasons, and be not so rash and hasty to disgrace your brethren.
And I might truly say unto you in your owne words. 1Have you not here shewed your selfe an acute disputer, for to pull downe Bethel you build Babell; to condemne the true hearing of Gods Word, you commend Idolatry. Consider therfore your owne reasons, and be not so rash and hastie to disgrace your brethren.
- 1Ibid.
Your obscure translating of Philosophical Canons, 1I will pass over, as Relata sunt simul natura, which you English thus; Relations in nature are alike: and apply it as strangely. Qualis causa, tale causatum, you translate thus; As is the cause, so that which is caused, of the doing of the thing: Idem qua idem semper facit idem; which you render. As is the same so always follows the same effect: whereby you turn principles or Canons at least into riddles, and it is hard to say, whether your interpretation be more obscure, or misapplication unreasonable (to speak in your language) as vain as ever man made.
Your obscure translating of Philosophicall Canons, 1I will passe over, as Relata sunt simul natura, which you English thus; Relations in nature are alike: and apply it as strangely. Qualis causa, tale causatum, you translate thus; As is the cause, so that which is caused, of the doing of the thing: Idem qua idem semper facit idem; which you render. As is the same so alwayes followes the same effect: whereby you turne principles or Canons at least into riddles, and it is hard to say, whether your interpretation bee more obscure, or misapplication unreasonable (to speake in your language) as vaine as ever man made.