A30189:438
An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English…An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English…
An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessity of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. John Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulness of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithful servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. Iohn Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulnesse of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithfull servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.
London: printed by R.B., 1642
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All reformed Churches, all ⟨p. 141⟩the faithful in the reformed Churches do acknowledge them the servants of Jesus Christ, approve their standing, reverence their gifts, hold communion with them, profess the same doctrine which they maintain, and praise God for his blessing upon their labours. And now consider with what uprightness and integrity you have alleged these Authors, against the hearing of the word in our English Assemblies, as if all the Ministers of the Church were false Prophets, convicted, obstinate, and outed the Church.
All reformed Churches, all ⟨p. 141⟩the faithfull in the reformed Churches doe acknowledge them the servants of Jesus Christ, approve their standing, reverence their gifts, hold communion with them, professe the same doctrine which they maintaine, and praise God for his blessing upon their labours. And now consider with what uprightnesse and integritie you have alleadged these Authors, against the hearing of the word in our English Assemblies, as if all the Ministers of the Church were false Prophets, convicted, obstinate, and outed the Church.
You tell us peremptorily, 1If the reformed Churches do justify the English, therein they condemn greatly their own practice: for in their constitution, ministry, worship and Government they are as opposite as light and darkness one to the other. 2Can you find nothing to object, that the Sun doth not shine at Noonday? Is it not apparent to all the Christian world, that the reformed Churches do give unto us the right hand of fellowship, and esteem as us the true Churches of Jesus Christ? In manner of government they differ from us, and they have abolished some rites and Ceremonies, which we retain as matters indifferent, not as matters of holiness, necessity, or worship (this is the profession of our Church) but in doctrine, worship and ministry for the substance thereof, there is a sweet agreement. And the differences, that are betwixt them and us in other matters,