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An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English…An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English…
An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessity of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. John Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulness of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithful servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. Iohn Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulnesse of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithfull servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.
London: printed by R.B., 1642
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Witness the Pacification of the Devonshire-Papists in the time of King Edward the sixth, when as they understood it was no other but the very Mass-book put into English. Witness also the assertion of Dr Carrier, a dangerous seducing Papist; The common-prayer-book (saith he) and the Catechism contained in it, hold no point of doctrine expressly contrary to Antiquity (that is, 1as he explaineth himself) the Romish-service, only hath not enough in it: And for the doctrine of predestination, Sacraments, grace, freewill, and sin, &c. The new Catechisms and Sermons of the Puritan-preachers, run wholly against the common-prayer, and Catechism therein contained, &c. 2And thereupon he comforteth himself upon the hope of the supply of the rest. To this effect speaketh Bristow and Harding. If these things be right, why not the rest? It shall not be amiss to mark one occurrence in Queen Elizabeths time, who being interdicted by the Popes Bull, Secretary Walsingham tried a trick of State-policy, to reverse the same. He caused two of the Popes Intelligencers, at the Popes appointment, to be brought (as it were) in secret into England, to whom he appointed a guide (being a State Intelligencer) who should show them in Canterbury and London service solemnly sung and said, with all their pomp and procession. Which order the popish Intelligencers seeing, and so much admiring, they wondered that ⟨p. 6⟩their Master would be so unadvised, as to interdict a Prince or State, whose service and ceremonies so symbolized with his own: So returning it the Pope, they showed him his oversight, affirming that they saw no service, ceremonies, or Church-order's in England, but they might have very well been performed in Rome: whereupon the Bull was presently called in.
Witnesse the Pacification of the Devonshire-Papists in the time of King Edward the sixth, when as they understood it was no other but the very Masse-booke put into English. Witnesse also the assertion of Dr Carrier, a dangerous seducing Papist; The common-prayer-booke (saith he) and the Catechisme conteined in it, hold no point of doctrine expresly contrary to Antiquitie (that is, 1as he explaineth himselfe) the Romish-service, onely hath not enough in it: And for the doctrine of predestination, Sacraments, grace, freewill, and sin, &c. The new Catechismes and Sermons of the Puritan-preachers, run wholly against the common-prayer, and Catechisme therein conteined, &c.