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An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English…An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English…
An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessity of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. John Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulness of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithful servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. Iohn Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulnesse of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithfull servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.
London: printed by R.B., 1642
Chapter 4 › Section 2 › ANSWER.Chapter 4 › Section 2 › ANSVVER.
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It is also manifest, they threaten some Churches with Gods displeasure, as that he would remove his Candlestick, cast them into the bed of sickness, spew them out of his mouth, unless they repent: but they dischurch them not, because of the disorders committed by some, tolerated by others, nor yet did they command or counsel the godly in those societies to separate from the ordinances of Religion, but to keep themselves pure.
It is also manifest, they threaten some Churches with Gods displeasure, as that he would remove his Candlestick, cast them into the bed of sicknesse, spew them out of his mouth, unlesse they repent: but they dischurch them not, because of the disorders committed by some, tolerated by others, nor yet did they command or counsell the godly in those societies to separate from the ordinances of Religion, but to keep themselves pure.
The History of the Gospel in the New Testament containeth but a short time, viz. from the time wherein John the Baptist began to preach, to the end of the acts and writings of the Apostles, which is not full fourscore years: so that we cannot show the repetition of the Covenant from time to time, or what patience was showed in tolerating abuses, or when men were adjudged obstinate, or what repentance and profession was required in general abuses or revolts; but by that which is said, we may discern who in phrase of Scripture are called Saints, and holy, faithful, and called, and chosen; even, all and every member of the common-wealth of Israel, and Christian Churches, until they were cut off, or cast out, though they lived not according to their profession, but were stiffenecked, scandalous, profane.
The History of the Gospel in the New Testament containeth but a short time, viz. from the time wherin John the Baptist began to preach, to the end of the acts and writings of the Apostles, which is not full fourscore yeares: so that we cannot shew the repetition of the Covenant from time to time, or what patience was shewed in tolerating abuses, or when men were adjudged obstinate, or what repentance and profession was required in generall abuses or revolts; but by that which is said, we may discerne who in phrase of Scripture are called Saints, and holy, faithfull, and called, and chosen; even, all and every member of the common-wealth of Israel, and Christian Churches, untill they were cut off, or cast out, though they lived not according to their profession, but were stiffenecked, scandalous, prophane.