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An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English…An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English…
An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessity of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. John Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulness of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithful servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. Iohn Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulnesse of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithfull servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.
London: printed by R.B., 1642
Chapter 4 › Section 5 › ANSWER.Chapter 4 › Section 5 › ANSVVER.
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Thirdly, The ssheep of Christ do hear his voice, but what sheep? not all that be sheep in profession, but all that be sheep indeed and truth, effectually called and gathered into Christ• sheep-fold. They hear, that is, acknowledge, believe and obey Christs voice sincerely, but not perfectly, fully, and completely: for the faithful may err of frailty and infirmity, both in faith and manners: sometimes they are mislead through ignorance, drawn aside by passions, foiled by temptations. Christs sheep do obey his voice, but tall that are linked with them in outward society, do not sincerely obey, not yet in conversation fashion themselves to the direction and commandment of Jesus Christ. And thus the Church of England, that is, the true and faithful people in those societies, do hear and obey the voice of Christ in truth, others mixed with them do hear and profess but not obey. If the Church do err, it is of ignorance, nor of wilfulness, or stubbornness: In matters of less importance, not fundamental or bordering thereupon: It is the error of some only, add not of the whole Church, which errors ucannot make that she is not the flock of Christ. The knot here to be unloosed, is your sin in charging that upon the ⟨p. 81⟩Nonconformists, the contrary whereto they have ever maintained.
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