A30189:64
An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English…An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English…
An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessity of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. John Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulness of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithful servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. Iohn Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulnesse of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithfull servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.
London: printed by R.B., 1642
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In the Proposition, as it is set down, that we may understand the sense thereof, two things are to be considered. ⟨p. 4⟩1. What is meant by a false Ministry. 2. What it is to communicate in a false Ministry.
In the Proposition, as it is set down, that we may understand the sense thereof, two things are to be considered. ⟨p. 4⟩1. What is meant by a false Ministerie. 2. What it is to communicate in a false Ministerie.
In plain and distinct dealing, a false Ministry is not to be confounded with a maimed, defective, or impure Ministry, for as the Gospel may be preached truly when it is taught impurely, so may the Ministry be true for substance, when it is impure in some respects. But seeing in your language, every unlearned, scandalous, negligent Minister, is a false Minister, and the Ministry which he executeth, is a false Ministry; therefore to omit further contestation about the word, It must be noted, That a false Ministry is twofold. 1. Absolute, viz. such as is no ways appointed of God, in respect of the substance of the office, whereunto he is set apart, as if a Minister be called to preach pernicious and damnable doctrine, or to offer Sacrifice propitiatory for quick and dead, and this Ministry is a mere nullity. 2 Comparative, or in some respect, as that which is maimed in the qualities, or care of the party chosen; or designed, as if a man unlearned, scandalous, idle be chosen; if he feed not the flock, or teach without power and authority. And this Ministry is defective, but of force and efficacy to the people of God: for substance, it is of God, for the good of his flock, and what is done in the administration is done by the authority of God, but the persons themselves, if in no measure qualified, are not allowed and approved of God.
In plaine and distinct dealing, a false Ministery is not to be confounded with a maymed, defective, or impure Ministery, for as the Gospel may be preached truly when it is taught impurely, so may the Ministery be true for substance, when it is impure in some respects. But seeing in your language, every unlearned, scandalous, negligent Minister, is a false Minister, and the Ministerie which he executeth, is a false Ministery; therefore to omit further contestation about the word, It must be noted, That a false Ministery is twofold. 1. Absolute, viz. such as is no wayes appointed of God, in respect of the substance of the office, whereunto he is set apart, as if a Minister be called to preach pernicious and damnable doctrine, or to offer Sacrifice propitiatory for quick and dead, and this Ministery is a meere nullitie. 2 Comparative, or in some respect, as that which is maymed in the qualities, or care of the party chosen; or designed, as if a man unlearned, scandalous, idle be chosen; if he feed not the flock, or teach without power and authoritie. And this Ministery is defective, but of force and efficacy to the people of God: for substance, it is of God, for the good of his flock, and what is done in the administration is done by the authoritie of God, but the persons themselves, if in no measure qualified, are not allowed and approved of God.