A30189:74
An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English…An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English…
An answer to two treatises of Mr. John Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessity of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. John Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulness of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithful servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. Iohn Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulnesse of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithfull servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.
London: printed by R.B., 1642
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An ignorant or scandalous Minister is given in judgement, 1but so, as God remembereth mercy for his, which he will reach forth by them. If God set Tyrants over a people in wrath, may not the Righteous seek protection under them, or receive right by their government. God takes no pleasure in an ungodly Minister, but he is pleased to place them here and there, that the children of blessing might receive by their Ministry, what the Lord hath promised, and knoweth to be expedient for them. The Church-acts of ungodly Ministers, are to themselves unprofitable, and in them sinful, abominable, but to the Congregation, they may be profitable, effectual, acceptable, as they are done for them, not without some calling, by Providence of God, and authority from God.
An ignorant or scandalous Minister is given in judgement, 1but so, as God remembreth mercy for his, which he will reach forth by them. If God set Tyrants over a people in wrath, may not the Righteous seek protection under them, or receive right by their government. God takes no pleasure in an ungodly Minister, but he is pleased to place them here and there, that the children of blessing might receive by their Ministerie, what the Lord hath promised, and knoweth to be expedient for them. The Church-acts of ungodly Ministers, are to themselves unprofitable, and in them sinfull, abominable, but to the Congregation, they may be profitable, effectuall, acceptable, as they are done for them, not without some calling, by Providence of God, and authoritie from God.
- 1So Tyrants reign by Gods Providence, but not by his approbation. Hos. 8.4. Tert. apol cap. 30. & ad Scapul. cap: 5. Orig. in lab. Ind. hom. 4 Cyp. epist 55. & 68. Hos 13.11. See Deodat. annot. Itali ja loc. Origen Hom 4, in Jud. Aug. contr. epist. Parm. lib. 2. cap. 4. Chrysost. Hom. post. in Hebr. Steut ergo •lum pia crant sacrifica second. legem, quimvis ab impus sacerdoribus celeb ata, Jer. 3.14. Si pia res est imperium, quamvis ab impio teneatur. Grot. de jure belli & pacit. l. 1. ca. 2. Gratian decret. par. 3 de consec. dst. 4. cap. 25.26, 27. 39.