A discourse concerning liturgies

Another place in ^oOrigen is more commonly insisted on, viz. in Homil. 11. upon Jeremiah; and for imposed Forms, they argue from the mode of an expression there, which, what it was in Origen, no man can tell; since in those Latin commentaries, we never have his words, and can never know (as his Translators have used him) when we have his sense, or whether we read him or them. However, these are the words alleged, Ubi frequenter in oratione dicimus, Da omnipotens, da nobis partem cum Prophetis, da cum Apostolis Christi tui, tribue ut inveniamur ad vestigia unigeniti tui; When we often say in Prayer, Grant Almighty, grant us a lot with thy Prophets, with the Apostles of thy Christ, give us that we may be found at the steps of thy only Son. Here it is presumed, that these are Origen's words, and not his Translators; and that the Form of his expression (on which alone the reasoning is grounded) is exactly and faithfully transferred to us, by those who declare they used no such exactness or faithfulness in reading him. It is presumed also, that, this was his meaning, that they frequently used, not only those Petitions, but in those very words, which there is no need we should grant: Yet if all these ⟨p. 142⟩were yielded, no more can hence be concluded, than what is common with those who Pray Extempore, viz. That they often in Prayer, preferred one or two Petitions, in the same words. Or, if I should grant, that this was a Form of Prayer, when there is nothing to persuade it, more than that the Apostles was a set Form, Eph. 1.² 16, 17, 18, &c. ([Greek or Hebrew] there being no less than frequenter here) yet what shadow of a proof is there, that it was a prescribed Form?

Another place in ^oOrigen is more commonly insisted on, viz. in Homil. 11. upon Jeremy; and for imposed Forms, they argue from the mode of an expression there, which, what it was in Origen, no man can tell; since in those Latin commentaries, we never have his words, and can never know (as his Translators have used him) when we have his sense, or whether we read him or them. However, these are the words alledged, Ʋbi frequenter in oratione dicimus, Da omnipotens, da nobis partem cum Prophetis, da cum Apostolis Christi tui, tribue ut inveniamur ad vestigia unigeniti tui; When we often say in Prayer, Grant Almighty, grant us a lot with thy Prophets, with the Apostles of thy Christ, give us that we may be found at the steps of thy only Son. Here it is presumed, that these are Origen's words, and not his Translators; and that the Form of his expression (on which alone the reasoning is grounded) is exactly and faithfully transferred to us, by those who declare they used no such exactness or faithfulness in reading him. It is presumed also, that, this was his meaning, that they frequently used, not only those Petitions, but in those very words, which there is no need we should grant: Yet if all these