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A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSWER, &c.A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSVVER, &c.
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Now sir you say though the People thus follow only for company [though the case was otherwise here, for the People would not have changed had they been left to their own Liberty, but the fear of a King or a Queen compelled them] Yet if they take upon them an outward profession, that was sufficient to give a right to themselves, and their children for Baptism: and consequently they were a true Church, though not a perfect and pure Church.
Now sir you say though the People thus follow onely for company [though the case was otherwise here, for the People would not have changed had they been left to their own Libertie, but the seare of a King or a Queen compelled them] Yet if they take upon them an outward profession, that was sufficient to give a right to themselves, and their children for Baptisme: and consequently they were a true Church, though not a perfect and pure Church.
But sir, you are speaking of the first Title to Baptism, what a strange Profession do you make here to give Title, how much different from what you have said before, is required to make a Church-member?
But sir, you are speaking of the first Title to Baptisme, what a strange Profession doe you make here to give Title, how much different from what you have said before, is required to make a Church-member?
You say,1 it is a true Church, how will you predicate Truth of an effect, when it wants the essential cause? to predicate verum or vere of •us is good, but how is here the entity of a Church, when the material cause is wanting? and if the material be wanting, the formal is also, The formal cause, suppose the material which it doth inform, and distinguish, &c.