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A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSWER, &c.A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSVVER, &c.
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I see Sir you will plead any thing to make an answer, and seem to shake hands with the Erastians, but if you and other Ministers (as I perceive some such) be so favourable to the opinion, then never open your mouths more for Church government: O say you and others, there are godly people of the opinion, well Sir, what then? put case Master Caw. is not of the opinion, but his Members are; suppose there were some scandalous Member to be excommunicated, you would do it, and you exhort the body to consent to you in it [to do it, renitente plebe is a poor thin they rise up, no sir, we will not consent to you in it, for we know no such Ordinance, we will hold Communion with him, these are godly persons, now what will you do? what brave work we make in pleading for opinions.
I see Sir you will plead any thing to make an answer, and seeme to shake hands with the Erastians, but if you and other Ministers (as I perceive some such) be so favourable to the opinion, then never open your mouths more for Church government: O say you and others, there are godly people of the opinion, well Sir, what then? put case Master Caw. is not of the opinion, but his Members are; suppose there were some scandalous Member to be excommuicated, you would doe it, and you exhort the body to consent to you in it [to doe it, renitente plebe is a poore thin they rise up, no sir, wee will not consent to you in it, for wee know no such Ordinance, wee will hold Communion with him, these are godly persons, now what will you doe? what brave worke we make in pleading for opinions.
For the explicit Church-Covenant you speak of in this page, I will let it alone till p. 5. where you revive it again.
For the explicite Church-Covenant you speake of in this page, I will let it alone till p. 5. where you revive it againe.