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A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSWER, &c.A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSVVER, &c.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
If you say,1 Where he first came to be baptized, of that particular Church he is a Member, and that Officer hath power, &c.
- 1Which you affirm, Diatr. 194.
No Sir, I cannot believe this doctrine, that my baptizing of another makes him member to our particular Church. I have had three of my children baptized by Ministers who never looked on me as member to their Church, though I dwelt in the Town, I have done the same for others (being called to it) yet none of my members. Your self acknowledge, Baptism doth not make a member of a visible Church, Revie. Mr. Hooker c. •. then not of this particular visible Church.
No Sir, I cannot believe this doctrine, that my baptizing of another makes him member to our particular Church. I have had three of my children baptized by Ministers who never looked on me as member to their Church, though I dwelt in the Town, I have done the same for others (being called to it) yet none of my members. Your selfe acknowledge, Baptisme doth not make a member of a visible Church, Revie. Mr. Hooker c. •. then not of this particular visible Church.
If you say,1 But a Christian must not do thus, he must join to a particular Church: the question is not what he must do, but what he will do: will not you baptize his child or him unless he will join? If not, you have said enough.