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A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSWER, &c.A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSVVER, &c.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
I easily see difficulties,1 if one or two Indians should seem to be converted, but because their language cannot join to an English Church, should now the Minister delay to baptize him? but then there is this also, if these two or one should prove vile and scandalous, what shall that Minister do with him? other scruples about this I could cast in; but it concerns not my question.
I easily see difficulties,1 if one or two Indians should seeme to be converted, but because their language cannot joyne to an English Church, should now the Minister delay to baptize him? but then there is this also, if these two or one should prove vile and scandalous, what shall that Minister doe with him? other scruples about this I could cast in; but it concernes not my question.
- 1In N. E.
The next fault you find is, That requiring an explicit covenant to such a Church, I seem not only to contradict my self, but also to unchurch most of our English Churches.
The next fault you finde is, That requiring an explicite covenant to such a Church, I seeme not only to contradict my selfe, but also to unchurch most of our English Churches.
Here I must stay a while, having occasion given to look back into your Epistle. What do I hear of contradictions again? you have a strange Art in finding out contradictions: but how come this about? it seems I require an explicit Covenant: But Sir, are you sure the word explicit is in the definition? nay, you are sure tis not: Can there be no Covenant in a Church but explicit? I suppose yes, and I suppose you think so also, so do Apollonius, we will hear him speak presently; is this faie dealing to force a word upon me when I have clearly before expressed my self another way? I am far enough then from contradictions, or from unchurching the faithful Congregations of England though they have not an expl Covenant: your self p. 25. mention the external Covenant of the Church, but what you mean by it I know not.