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A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSWER, &c.A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSVVER, &c.
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One word more about Parishes: I would put this question, it is a practise in England for a Patron to present, of late I know where a godly Minister was chosen by the people, yet it being a Sequestration, the Incumbent dying, the gift fell into the hand of the Patron; he being an idle companion turned out the godly Minister, and put in another that is, &c. the people with one consent did declare against him, and opposed him at his coming, yet it seems because the Law of the Land will have it so, this man is he that hath the place; but is he therefore their Pastor because he pre•chech in their Parish? I think it were strange for any man to affirm it, and this practise is very common: I hope the mere parish doth not make him their Pastor, nor the people his Members. This is a woeful plague to godly people, and teach the way to Separation, though it will not justify others where the case is not the same.
One word more about Parishes: I would put this question, it is a practise in England for a Patron to present, of late I know where a godly Minister was chosen by the people, yet it being a Sequestration, the Incumbent dying, the gift fell into the hand of the Patron; he being an idle companion turned out the godly Minister, and put in another that is, &c. the people with one consent did declare against him, and opposed him at his comming, yet it seemes because the Law of the Land will have it so, this man is he that hath the place; but is he therefore their Pastour because he pre•chech in their Parish? I thinke it were strange for any man to affirme it, and this practise is very common: I hope the meere parish doth not make him their Pastour, nor the people his Members. This is a wofull plague to godly people, and teach the way to Separation, though it will not justify others where the case is not the same.
Doctor Ames tells us of a vinculum special which he calls Foedus, 1and so as no man is rightly admitted into the Church, but by confession of Faith, and promise of Obedience. And this Apollonius owns, pag. 13, 14.