A41334:185
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSWER, &c.A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSVVER, &c.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
And here Sir they require no more of you, then they will give; for if any who are Members of their Churches should come over from them hither, and bring no Letters of recommendation to the Churches here, showing that they are Members with them there, and walk approvedly among them; if such should require the Lords Supper or Baptism here, if you will refuse them [unless they will show or make it out, that they are Members there, and walk orderly, (only their occasions call them hither now for a time) or will join with you if they have left those Churches] the Churches there will not be displeased with you: therefore the Members that come from thence bring Letters of recommendation with them, showing what I have said before, and desiring of Churches here their care over them while here they abide. And now you have the plain reason.
And here Sir they require no more of you, then they will give; for if any who are Members of their Churches should come over from them hither, and bring no Letters of recommendation to the Churches here, shewing that they are Members with them there, and walk approvedly among them; if such should require the Lords Supper or Baptisme here, if you will refuse them [unlesse they will shew or make it out, that they are Members there, and walk orderly, (onely their occasions call them hither now for a time) or will joyne with you if they have left those Churches] the Churches there will not be displeased with you: therefore the Members that come from thence bring Letters of recommendation with them, shewing what I have said before, and desiring of Churches here their care over them while here they abide. And now you have the plaine reason.
But one word more: pag. 29. you speak against those who meddle with other Ministers charges: those who go to New England you call your Members, should then the Ministers of New England baptize, and excommunicate (out of what Church I know not but yours, for of theirs they are no Members) your Members, they should meddle with your charge, and do a strange act to excommunicate your Members when your self do not, this is more then Classical or Episcopal power.