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A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSWER, &c.A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSVVER, &c.
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Then p. 11. you turn an argument upon me from my self,1 [because I could plead a promise by virtue of may Father, so may the Grandchild by virtue of a godly Grandfather, and so bid me change Parent into Progenitors.] Sir I am glad I could give you so good an argument, and I could beteem to let it alone, for it will not hurt my question, as I said before. Only a word, you bid me change Parent into Progenitors; so I will, let it be the great Grandfather of the child's great Grandfather, and one that is forty generations before him, for your & coetera will give me leave, (I know not how to set bounds to & coetera) yet I may go so far for a title, and the text you bring doth not limit me.
Then p. 11. you turne an argument upon me from my selfe,1 [because I could plead a promise by vertue of may Father, so may the Grandchild by vertue of a godly Grandfather, and so bid me change Parent into Progenitors.] Sir I am glad I could give you so good an argument, and I could beteame to let it alone, for it will not hurt my question, as I said before. Onely a word, you bid me change Parent into Progenitors; so I will, let it be the great Grandfather of the childs great Grandfather, and one that is fourty generations before him, for your & coetera will give me leave, (I know not how to set bounds to & coetera) yet I may goe so farre for a title, and the text you bring doth not limit me.
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You grant an Apostate loseth his own baptism, p. 12.1 so his right is cut off; suppose the pro-parents be dead here is intercisio Christianismi as you quoted Calvin before, then I know not how this Apostates child can be Baptized, by any parental right: yet if this child should come to understanding, and there should be movings on the heart of it, and it should plead the Covenant of a Grandfather [I should not question to baptise it without respect to parents if it came to that.] Yet Sir, this will show there is a