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A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSWER, &c.A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSVVER, &c.
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You will object, as you answer, pag. 13. All Communion with himself, but not with the child, for that is borne a Christian, and so bath right.
Ans. Hath the child right to Communion any other way with the Church then by the parent? is it not he that brings him in as a branch of himself? is it not a Christian borne by virtue of the parents Christianity? but his parents Christianity can give himself no title to Church-privileges, as I said before of profession, which is all one. Doth the child plead a title distinct from the parent? if so, then your answer you give were something, but I know of no title it hath but the parents, who expresses his own title for himself and his seed. Now it is very rational, that if the child have Communion given only by virtue of the parents Communion, [for before the parent was admitted a Church-member the child could have none] then the parent having forfeited Communion for himself, must needs forfeit it for his depending child also.
Ans. Hath the child right to Communion any other way with the Church then by the paren•? is it not he that brings him in as a branch of himself? is it not a Christian borne by vertue of the parents Christianity? but his parents Christianity can give himselfe no title to Church-priviledges, as I said before of profession, which is all one. Doth the child plead a title distinct from the parent? if so, then your answer you give were something, but I know of no title it hath but the parents, who expresses his own title for himselfe and his seed. Now it is ve•y rationall, that if the child have Communion given onely by vertue of the parents Communion, [for before the parent was admitted a Church-member the child could have none] then the parent having forf•ited Communion for himselfe, must needs forfeit it for his depending child also.