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A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSWER, &c.A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSVVER, &c.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
But you answer to this Argument, p. 13. That he is a member still, though much diseased; he was much diseased before, whilst under Church admonitions, suspensions, and because those Medicines would not cure him he was cut off; a member under cure, say you, his cure is non membership.
But this is pretty, a man shall be cut off the body, and yet be a member of the body; a man shall be cast out of the Church, and yet shall be within the Church; a man shall be no member of a Church, as say you p. 24. and p. 14. and yet be a member of a Church; how you who are so Eagle eyed to spy out contradictions in other men will now clear your self, I cannot tell. Member, no Member, are contradicentia I think, and to find a medium in contradicentibus is new Logic to me, I though ens & non ens had admitted none.
But this is pretty, a man shall be cut off the body, and yet be a member of the body; a man shall be cast out of the Church, and yet shall'be within the Church; a man shall be no member of a Church, as say you p. 24. and p. 14. and yet be a member of a Church; how you who are so Eagle eyed to spie out contradictions in other men will now cleare your selfe, I cannot tell. Member, no Member, are contradicentia I thinke, and to find a medium in contradicentibus is new Logick to me, I though ens & non ens had admitted none.
3. Excommunication is the putting of a man out of the visible Kingdom of Christ, into the Kingdom of Satan. So the best Expositors I meet with,1 Master Cartwright, &c. expounds that delivering up to Satan.