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A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSWER, &c.A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSVVER, &c.
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General rules stand, when we have such a particular case (as you mention, p. 13.) falls our, we shall consider it, I give you no cases but such as have really been.
Generall rules stand, when we have such a particular case (as you mention, p. 13.) falls our, we shall consider it, I give you no cases but such as have really beene.
Before I proceed further, I must have recourse to your Diatr. with Mr. Hooker for another way of admitting children to Baptism, viz. by Adoption or Suretyship: for this is one of my errors that I suppose the next parent only can give the title to Baptism: and this was Mr. Hookers error as well as mine; you tell us two other ways: 1. The remoter parents [which I have dispatched, if it can be proved by better grounds then yet you have brought, yet it hurts not me nor Mr. Hooker, the questions stand firm still as we handle them:] The 2. is Adoption or Suretyship, so that you give three or rather four ways how children may come to Baptism; for Adoption and Suretyship, I conceive differ very much. Yet these shall not hinder me neither, no more then Mr. Hooker, though you can prove them, if you will let them be persons rightly qualified for Church members, who do Adops. &c. and by virtue of whom the child is baptised, so that I could ease my self that way: I like not this so well as the former. I will turn to Gen. 17.
Before I proceed further, I must have recourse to your Diatr. with Mr. Hocker for another way of admitting children to Baptisme, viz. by Adoption or Suretiship: for this is one of my errours that I suppose the next parent onely can give the title to Baptisme: and this was Mr. Hookers errour as well as mine; you tell us two other wayes: 1. The remoter parents [which I have dispatched, if it can be proved by better grounds then yet you have brought, yet it hurts not me nor Mr. Hooker, the questions stand firme still as we handle them:] The 2. is Adoption or Suretiship, so that you give three or rather foure wayes how children may come to Baptisme; for Adoption and Surtiship, I conceive differ very much. Yet these shall not hinder me neither, no more then Mr. Hocker, though you can prove them, if you will let them be persons rightly qualified for Church members, who do Adops. &c. and by vertue of whom the child is baptised, so that I could ease my selfe that way: I like not this so well as the former. I will turn to