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A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSWER, &c.A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSVVER, &c.
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Ergo, it may be Baptized, and is Minister may lawfully Baptize i•.
Thus you have killed me with my own Weapon, but sir when I look on your Syllogism, it comes at first view as if you must out off one of the see•e of it, for I […] it […] on four: I pray wheat was this •••me, ⟨p. 4⟩and a Minister may lawfully [that is, the word binds him to it, which is the pinch of the Question] Baptize is, disposed in the premisses? if you say, it was included in the Major, when I said it may be Baptized. Sir I cannot tell that, if a Minister will admit a Man into the Church as a Member, though the Man be not qualified as you have told us Members must be, but very scandalous in conversation, and grossly ignorant, yet the Minister thinks he have enough to admit him a Member, and consequently he Baptizeth him; Such a Minister may Baptize him if he will, he may say, (A Member admitted may be Baptized, but this is a Member admitted) But the word doth not bind him, no, he profanes the Ordinance, though he will admit him a Member.
Thus you have killed me with my own Weapon, but sir when I looke on your Syllogisme, it comes at first view as if you must out off one of the see•e of it, for I 〈…〉 it 〈…〉 on foure: I pray wheat was this •••me, ⟨p. 4⟩and a Minister may lawfully [that is, the word binds him to it, which is the pinch of the Question] Baptize is, disposed in the premisses? if you say, it was included in the Major, when I said it may be Baptized. Sir I cannot tell that, if a Minister will admit a Man into the Church as a Member, though the Man be not qualified as you have told us Members must be, but very scandalous in conversation, and grosly ignorant, yet the Minister thinkes he have enough to admit him a Member, and consequently hee Baptizeth him; Such a Minister may Baptize him if he will, he may say, (A Member admitted may be Baptized, but this is a Member admitted) But the word doth not binde him, no, he prophanes the Ordinace, though he will admit him a Member.