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A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSWER, &c.A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSVVER, &c.
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However Sir you should have expressed this in the Major, as you have done in the Conclusion, then your Major I would have denied; you will say to me, the Major is my one proposition, and upon that I argue, and show you and the World how you have confu•ed your self. No Sir I do utterly deny it; show me such a passage where I have said that Scandalous Members [such us our English persons are, named in the Question] tolerated, may have their Children Baptized, and the word binds Ministers to do it. Show your Reader that, and then you say something: but how far I was from thinking or speaking so, the very next words unto that which you say is my sentence, and out of which I have confuted my self, do declare: my words are these.
However Sir you should have expressed this in the Major, as you have done in the Conclusion, then your Major I would have denyed; you will say to me, the Major is my one proposition, and upon that I argue, and show you and the World how you have confu•ed your selfe. No Sir I do utterly deny it; shew me such a passage where I have said that Scandalous Members [such us our English persons are, named in the Question] tollerated, may have their Children Baptized, and the word bindes Ministers to do it. Shew your Reader that, and then you say something: but how farre I was from thinking or speaking so, the very next words unto that which you say is my sentence, and out of which I have consuted my selfe, do declare: my words are these.
But I conceive such a person is not sufficiently qualified to make a Member of a Church, nor ought to be continued a Member of the Church: but the Church ought to seek to reform him, or if not, to cast him out, so that if the Church will let such a person alone, and give him these Ordinances, there will be guilt charged upon that Church.
But I conceive such a person is not sufficiently qualified to make a Member of a Church, nor ought to be continued a Member of the Church: but the Church ought to seeke to reforme him, or if not, to cast him out, so that if the Church will let such a person alone, and give him these Ordinances, there will be guilt charged upon that Church.