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A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSWER, &c.A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSVVER, &c.
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But I conceive such a person is not sufficiently qualified to make a Member of a Church, nor ought to be continued a Member of the Church: but the Church ought to seek to reform him, or if not, to cast him out, so that if the Church will let such a person alone, and give him these Ordinances, there will be guilt charged upon that Church.
But I conceive such a person is not sufficiently qualified to make a Member of a Church, nor ought to be continued a Member of the Church: but the Church ought to seeke to reforme him, or if not, to cast him out, so that if the Church will let such a person alone, and give him these Ordinances, there will be guilt charged upon that Church.
This sentence I conceive (if the Reader be but indifferent, and not prejudiced against me) will save me from self-confutation: if the sentence be not true, but Mr. Cawdry had proved that the Minister is not too blame though he lets him alone, and yet may lawfully Baptize. Then had he spoken to my scruple indeed, and I would have thanked him heartily, but then I had not confuted my self.
This sentence I conceive (if the Reader be but indifferent, and not prejudiced against me) will save me from selfe-confutation: if the sentence be not true, but Mr. Cawdry had proved that the Minister is not too blame though he lets him alone, and yet may lawfully Baptize. Then had he spoken to my scruple indeed, and I would have thanked him heartily, but then I had not confuted my selfe.
But still Mr. Caw. will urge from my own words, thus I have said, Scandalom Members, if tolerated, let alone by the Church, they have a remote right to Baptism and the Supper; Ergo, they may lawfully have their Children Baptized, and the word binds Ministers to do it.