A41334:326
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSWER, &c.A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSVVER, &c.
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For your last clause in that Paragraph, [there is another way to reform a constituted Church but corrupted, then first to constitute a Church, viz. Discipline] ⟨p. 46⟩I know not what sense to make of it, I supposed there was some ••our in the Printer, but I find no Errata printed, and so cannot tell what to say to it: I said let Discipline be exercised, and so the Churches reduced to their first constitution, viz. to be such as Churches ought to be. I•perceive your next heads are to oppose this, you have no Government settled; you may have it if you will, as I said before, parties refuse to submit to it, say you, then I am the stronger; for if there be no Excommunication, I am not tied to baptise till they be excommunicated, which you urge so much.
For your last clause in that Paragraph, [there is another way to reforme a constituted Church but corrupted, then first to constitute a Church, viz. Discipline] ⟨p. 46⟩I know not what sense to make of it, I supposed there was some ••our in the Printer, but I finde no Errata printed, and so cannot tell what to say to it: I said let Discipline be exercised, and so the Churches reduced to their first constitution, viz. to be such as Churches ought to be. I•perceive your next heads are to oppose this, you have no Government settled; you may have it if you will, as I said before, parties refuse to submit to it, say you, then I am the stronger; for if there be no Excommunication, I am not tyed to baptise till they be excommunicated, which you urge so much.
You ask me again, would I have such suddenly ejected? why Sir is there no Church-Discipline but Excommunication? we use unless offences he very notorious (and we have enough such) first to admonish persons seriously to bring persons to repentance; if that will not do, we suspend; if that will not do,