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A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSWER, &c.A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSVVER, &c.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
The Magistrate doth give leave for these two, which in respect of Government are so near, that they need not be called two; but this fearful blasting of the Ordinances by the sore hand of God, and this horrible disunion between the Congregational and Classical men, and others who are godly, say in my heart, there hangs a scourge over both Congregational and Classical men, and other professors.
The Magistrate doth give leave for these two, which in respect of Government are so neere, that they need not be called two; but this fearfull blasting of the Ordinances by the sore hand of God, and this horrible disunion betweene the Congregationall and Classicall men, and others who are godly, say in my heart, there hangs a scourge over both Congregationall and Classicall men, and other professours.
For the rest, p. 30. there is little to answer:
2. For your bringing in the Authority of the civill Magistrate, to reform our people as Church-members; this will be poor Reformation: I thought Church-members had been formed and reformed, by the sword of the Spirit, not of the Magistrate, they can scarce make better Laws then they have made, for reforming of Moral vices, I think the fault lies not in them, they cannot be Judges and Witnesses too.
2. For your bringing in the Authority of the civill Magistrate, to reforme our people as Church-members; this will be poore Reformation: I thought Church-members had been formed and reformed, by the sword of the Spirit, not of the Magistrate, they can scarce make better Lawes then they have made, for reforming of Morall vices, I think the fault lyes not in them, they cannot be Judges and Witnesses too.