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A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
If by a Christian nomine tenus your m•aning were, one who […] but a nominal Christian, as all are who are not real, I make no question but many such as these nominal ones a Minister may B prise, and their children, though they have not truth of grace in them: but I perceive you: scope is to sp•ead the word very large: and that directly opposite to my question; If they will say they are Christians, been the Name of Christ, own his worship (though it be but from the custom of the Nation, others do so, and so do they) though their course and frame of conversation be like the infidels, or worse yet they are Christians nomine •enus, hence we must Baptize, if they have but Fides, no ma•ter for Observan••a.
If by a Christian nomine tenus your m•aning were, one who 〈…〉 but a nominall Christian, as all are who are not reall, I make no question but many such as these nominall ones a Minister may B prise, and their children, though they have not truth of grace in them: but I perceive you: scope is to sp•ead the word very large: and that directly opposite to my qu•stion; If they will say they are Christians, bene the Name of Ch•ist, own his worship (though it be but from the custome of the Nation, others do so, and so do they) though their course and frame of conversation be like the infidells, or worse yet they are Christians nomine •enus, hence we must Baptize, if they have but Fides, no ma•ter for Observan••a.
But sir, I pray what if they be heretical about the natures of Christ a some of old deny the Humanity, some the Deity of Christ? what if they think Christ was a Woman (as I have given instance) what if they know not whether he was God or Man (as before) what if ten Gods (as before) and abundance of such stuff (all which yet will call themselves Christians) must these be Baptized? These are errors in their belief.