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A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSWER, &c.A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSVVER, &c.
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5. §5Suppose I stay till the Classis be formed and Act, shall we have power then to reform? But suppose my people ask other Ministers of the Classis besides my self, what power they have to reform them, who made them Rulers over the people against their wills and consent, having called none but my self for their Pastor? you must have a call you say to put forth your power actu secundo, in another Church.
5. §5Suppose I stay till the Classis be formed and Act, shall wee have power then to reform? But suppose my people aske other Ministers of the Classis besides my selfe, what power they have to reforme them, who made them Rulers over the people against their wills and consent, having called none but my self for their Pastour? you must have a call you say to put forth your power actu secundo, in another Church.
6. §6Suppose there were a Church on an Island, where there was only a Pastor, should he and his people be denied to reform, since there is no other Church near him? if you will give him power, I pray give me, for it is all one to be on an Island, where there are no more Churches that can combine, and so help one another, as to be in another place where are thousands, but none will: it is cannot there, it is will not hear. Yet Sir, there is a Congregational Church in the next Town, and when need is I seek counsel of that reverend Officer Mr. Dan Rogers.
6. §6Suppose there were a Church on an Island, where there was onely a Pastour, should he and his people be denyed to reforme, since there is no other Church neere him? if you will give him power, I pray give me, for it is all one to be on an Island, where there are no more Churches that can combine, and so helpe one another, as to be in another place where are thousands, but none will: it is cannot there, it is will not heare. Yet Sir, there is a Congregationall Church in the next Towne, and when need is I seeke counsell of that reverend Officer Mr. Dan Rogers.