A41334:71
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious…
A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grossly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church discipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptism of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...A sober reply to the sober answer of Reverend Mr. Cawdrey, to A serious question propounded viz. whether the ministers of England are bound by the word of God to baptise the children of all such parents, which say they believe in Jesus Christ, but are grosly ignorant, scandalous in their conversations, scoffers at godliness, and refuse to submit to church dicipline ... : also, the question of Reverend Mr. Hooker concerning the baptisme of infants : with a post-script to Reverend Mr. Blake / by G.I. Firmin ...
London: printed by J.G., 1653
A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSWER, &c.A SOBER REPLY TO A SOBER ANSVVER, &c.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
I think Sir you speak the same words,1 in Review of Mr. Hooker, notoriously scandalous Men, tolerated in a Church, whilst tolerated they are Members to all Ordinances for themselves, and their posterity. Then all the Ranters, &c. are members to the Lords Supper, and you have no power, you say to help it. Yet I presume you would find power before you would admit all such to the Supper.
I thinke Sir you speake the same words,1 in Review of Mr. Hooker, notoriously scandalous Men, tolerated in a Church, whilest tolerated they are Members to all Ordinances for themselves, and their posteritie. Then all the Ranters, &c. are members to the Lords Supper, and you have no power, you say to helpe it. Yet I presume you would sinde power before you would admit all such to the Supper.
- 1P. 94.
This I would same have cleared to me, that the Officers are bound to look to the Members more in admitting them to the Supper then to Baptism: and the Supper, respect both the same Covenant, there is but one condition [whether there be Conditio propri•dicta *in the Covenant of grace is another question] of the coun••ll of grace, viz. That man then, who can rightly take a Seal, or Convey a Seal of this Covenant to his, must visibly appear to have the condition of the Covenant, [which is the first and main right,2] if he do so appear, and therefore can convey the Seal to his Child, why he may not have the other Seal for himself, appearing to be a Believer, and also being in right Order for my part, I see no reason.