A41335:208
Weighty questions discussed I. Whether imposition of hands in separating a person to the…
Weighty questions discussed I. Whether imposition of hands in separating a person to the work of the ministry be necessary?, II. Whether it be essential to the right constitution of a particular church, that the teaching elders and the members meet always in one place? : whereunto is added a prediction of Mr. Daniel Rogers, minister in Essex, long before the beheading King Charles I and Arch-Bishop Laud, foretelling that they should not dye a natural death / by Giles Firmin ...Weighty questions discussed I. Whether imposition of hands in separating a person to the work of the ministry be necessry?, II. Whether it be essential to the right constitution of a particular church, that the teaching elders and the members meet alwayes in one place? : whereunto is added a prediction of Mr. Daniel Rogers, minister in Essex, long before the beheading King Charles I and Arch-Bishop Laud, foretelling that they should not dye a natural death / by Giles Firmin ...
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4. Tho' I deny Election to give the Essence, yet suppose Election to be an Ingredient into it; where two things meet together to the Constitution of an Officer, Subjection and Authority, certainly Authority gives the Essence more than Submission; thus Dr. Owen, the People Electing Submit themselves; and Dr. Ames *before him, answering Bellarmin, who made it strange, that Sheep should choose their Shepherd: Yes, saith Dr. Ames, rational Sheep may choose their Shepherd, not by Jurisdiction, but by Subjection.
4. Tho' I deny Election to give the Essence, yet suppose Election to be an Ingredient into it; where two things meet together to the Constitution of an Officer, Subjection and Authority, certainly Authority gives the Essence more than Sabmission; thus Dr. Owen, the People Electing Sabmit themselves; and Dr. Ames *before him, answering Bellarmin, who made it strange, that Sheep should choose their Shepherd: Yes, saith Dr. Ames, rational Sheep may choose their Shepherd, not by Jurisdiction, but by Sabjection.
- *Bellar. enera. to. 2. p. 87.
5. The Scriptures which are for Ordination by Imposition of Hands are more in number, and far more clear than those for Election; the first Text which they bring for Election, Acts 1.15. this differs much from curs, for our Election is with Subjection to him whom the People Elect: But this was not so. Did Peter [the Pope will be angry if you tell him so] and the other Apostles subject themselves to him whom they Chose? 2ly. It was choosing one of their own Order, not one above them, so does not Popular Election. 3ly. Tho' Peter did speak to all present, yet it does not appear that all present did choose, but the Apostles, for they could tell best, who had accompanied them all the time the Lord Jesus went in and out among them, V. 21, 22. Surely all that were present could not tell who those were as the Apostles. 4ly. They gave forth their Lots, V. 26. 5ly: They Prayed to the Lord, to show whether of these two Thou hast chosen, 24. Is this Text clear for Popular Election?