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The preaching bishop reproving unpreaching prelates Being a brief, but faithful collection of observable passages, in several sermons preached by the reverend father in God, Mr Hugh Latimer, Bish. of Worcester, (one of our first reformers, and a glorious martyr of Jesus Christ) before K. Edw. the sixth; before the convocation of the clergy, and before the citizens of London, at Pauls. Wherein, many things, relating to the honour and happiness of the king (our most gracious sovereign) the honourable lords, the reverend judges, the citizens of London, and commons of all sorts, but especially, the bishops and clergy are most plainly, piously and pithily represented.The preaching bishop reproving unpreaching prelates Being a brief, but faithful collection of observeable passages, in several sermons preached by the reverend father in God, Mr Hugh Latimer, Bish. of Worcester, (one of our first reformers, and a glorious martyr of Jesus Christ) before K. Edw. the sixth; before the convocation of the clergy, and before the citizens of London, at Pauls. Wherein, many things, relating to the honour and happiness of the king (our most gracious soveraign) the honourable lords, the reverend judges, the citizens of London, and commons of all sorts, but especially, the bishops and clergy are most plainly, piously and pithily represented.
London : printed, and are to be sold by booksellers, 1661
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They are otherwise occupied, some in Kings matters, some are Ambassadors, some of the privy Counsel, some to furnish the Court, some are Lords of the Parliament, some are Presidents and Comptrollers of Mints.
They are otherwise occupied, some in Kings matters, some are Ambassadours, some of the privy Counsel, some to furnish the Court, some are Lords of the Parliament, some are Presidents and Comptrollers of Mintes.
Well, well, Is this their duty? Is this their Office? Is this their calling? should we have Ministers of the Church to be Comptrollers of the Mints? Is this a meet Office for a Priest that hath cure of Souls, is this his charge?
Well, well, Is this their duty? Is this their Office? Is this their calling? should we have Ministers of the Church to be Comptrollers of the Mintes? Is this a meet Office for a Priest that hath cure of Souls, is this his charge?
I would here ask one question: I would fain know who controlleth the Devil at home at his Parish, while he controlleth the Mint? If the Apostles might not leave the Office of preaching ⟨p. 34⟩to be Deacons, shall one leave it for minting?—
I would here ask one question: I would fain know who controlleth the Devil at home at his Parish, while he comptrolleth the Mint? If the Apostles might not leave the Office of preaching ⟨p. 34⟩to be Deacons, shall one leave it for minting?—
In this behalf, I must speak to England; Hear my Country England, as Paul said in his first Epistle to the Corinthians chapt. 6. For Paul was no sitting Bishop, but a walking and a preaching Bishop: But when he went from them, he left there behind him the Plough going still, for he wrote unto them, and rebuked them for going to Law, and pleading their causes before Heathen Judges. I speak, saith he, to your shame, is there not a Wise man, &c.
In this behalf, I must speak to England; Hear my Country England, as Paul said in his first Epistle to the Corinthians chapt. 6. For Paul was no sitting Bishop, but a walking and a preaching Bishop: But when he went from them, he left there behind him the Plough going still, for he wrote unto them, and rebuked them for going to Law, and pleading their causes before Heathen Judges. I speak, saith he, to your shame, is there not a Wiseman, &c.
So England, I speak it to thy shame, is there never a Noble man to be a Lord President, but it must be a Prelate? is there never a Wise man in the Realm to be a Comptroller of the Mint? I speak it to your shame, I speak to your shame: if there be never a Wise man, make a Water-bearer, a Tinker, a Cobbler, a Slave, a Page Comptroller of the Mint. Make a mean Gentleman a Groom, a Yeoman, make a poor beggar Lord President.
So England, I speak it to thy shame, is there never a Noble man to be a Lord President, but it must be a Prelate? is there never a Wiseman in the Realm to be a Comptroller of the Mint? I speak it to your shame, I speak to your shame: if there be never a Wiseman, make a Water-bearer, a Tinker, a Cobler, a Slave, a Page Comptroller of the Mint. Make a mean Gentleman a Groom, a Yeoman, make a poor begger Lord President.
Thus I speak, not that I would have it so, but to your shame, if there be never a Gentleman meet nor able to be Lord President.
For why are not the Noblemen and Young Gentlemen of England, 1so brought up in knowledge of God and in learning, that they may be able to execute Offices in the Commonweal?
The King hath a great many of Wards, and I trow there is a Court of Wards, why is not there a School of Wards, as well as there is a Court for their Lands; why are they not set in Schools where they may learn? or why are not they sent to the Universities, that they may be able to serve the King when they come to age.
If the Wards and Young Gentlemen were well brought up in learning and in the knowledge of God, they would not when they come to age so much give themselves to other vanities. And if the Nobility were well trained in Godly learning,1 the people would follow the same train. For truly, such as the Noblemen be such will the ⟨p. 36⟩people be, and now the only cause why Noblemen be not made Lord Presidents, is because they have not been brought up in learning.
Therefore, for the love of God, appoint Teachers and School-masters, you that have charge of Youth, and give the Teachers Stipends worthy their pains, that they may bring them up in Grammar, in Logic, in Rhetoric, in Philosophy, in the civil Law, and in that which I cannot leave unspoken of, the Word of God.—
Therefore, for the love of God, appoint Teachers and School-masters, you that have charge of Youth, and give the Teachers Stipends worthy their pains, that they may bring them up in Grammer, in Logick, in Rhetorick, in Philosophy, in the civil Law, and in that which I cannot leave unspoken of, the Word of God.—
It is as unmeet a thing for Bishops to be Lord Presidents, or Priests to be Minters, as it was for the Corinthians to plead Matters of Variance before Heathen Judges.1 It is also a slander to the Noblemen, as though they lacked wisdom and learning, to be able for such Offices, or else were no men of conscience, and not meet to be trusted.
It is as unmeet a thing for Bishops to be Lord Presidents, or Priests to be Minters, as it was for the Corinthians to plead Matters of Variance before Heathen Judges.1 It is also a slander to the Noblemen, as though they lacked wisdome and learning, to be able for such Offices, or else were no men of conscience, and not meet to be trusted.
A Prelate hath a charge and cure otherwise, and therefore he cannot discharge his duty, and be a Lord President too; for a Presidentship requireth a whole man, and a Bishop cannot be two men.
A Bishop hath his Office, a flock to teach, to look unto; and therefore he cannot meddle with another Office, which alone requireth a whole man. He should therefore give it over to whom it is meet, and labour in his own business, as Paul writeth to the Thessalonians: Let every man do his own business, and follow his calling. Let the Priest preach, and the Nobleman handle the temporal matters. Moses a marvellous man, a good man, Moses was a wonderful fellow, and did his duty, being a married man; we lack such as Moses was. Well, I would all men would look to their duty, as God hath called them, and then we should have a flourishing Christian Common-weal.
A Bishop hath his Office, a flock to teach, to look unto; and therefore he cannot meddle with another Office, which alone requireth a whole man. He should therefore give it over to whom it is meet, and labour in his own business, as Paul writeth to the Thessalonians: Let every man do his own business, and follow his calling. Let the Priest preach, and the Nobleman handle the temporal matters. Moses a marvellous man, a good man, Moses was a wonderful fellow, and did his duty, being a married man; we lack such as Moses was. VVell, I would all men would look to their duty, as God hath called them, and then we should have a flourishing Christian Common-weal.
And now I would ask a strange question? who is the most diligent Bishop and Prelate in all England, that passeth all the rest in doing his Office?
I can tell, for I know him who it is, I know him well. But now I think I see you listening, hearkening, that I should name him. There is one that passeth ⟨p. 38⟩all the other, and is the most diligent Prelate and Preacher in all England: 1And will ye know who it is? I will tell you, it is the Devil: He is the most diligent Preacher of all other, he's never out of his Diocese, he is never from his Cure, you shall never find him unoccupied, he is ever in his Parish, he keepeth residence at all times, ye shall never find him out of the way; call for him when you will, he is ever at home, the diligentest Preacher in all the Realm, he is ever at his Plough, no Lording nor Loitering can hinder him, he is ever applying his business, you shall never find him idle, I warrant you.
I can tell, for I know him who it is, I know him well. But now I think I see you listning, hearkning, that I should name him. There is one that passeth ⟨p. 38⟩all the other, and is the most diligent Prelate and Preacher in all England: 1And will ye know who it is? I will tell you, it is the Devil: He is the most diligent Preacher of all other, he's never out of his Diocess, he is never from his Cure, you shall never find him unoccupied, he is ever in his Parish, he keepeth residence at all times, ye shall never find him out of the way; call for him when you will, he is ever at home, the diligentest Preacher in all the Realm, he is ever at his Plow, no Lording nor Loytering can hinder him, he is ever applying his business, you shall never find him idle, I warrant you.
And his Office is to hinder Religion,1 to maintain Superstition, to set up Idolatry, to teach all kind of Popery. He is ready as can be wished for, to set forth his Plough, to devise as many ways as can be, to deface and obscure Gods Glory.
And his Office is to hinder Religion,1 to maintain Superstition, to set up Idolatry, to teach all kind of Popery. He is ready as can be wished for, to set forth his Plow, to devise as many ways as can be, to deface and obscure Gods Glory.
