A53669:115
A brief declaration and vindication of the doctrine of the Trinity as also of…
A brief declaration and vindication of the doctrine of the Trinity as also of the person and satisfaction of Christ / accommodated to the capacity and use of such as may be in danger to be seduced, and the establishment of the truth by J. Owen.
London: printed by R.W. for Nath. Ponder, 1669
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And this is the same, which our Lord Jesus asserts concerning himself, John 3. 13. And no man, saith he, hath ascended up to Heaven, but he that came down from Heaven, even the Son of man which is in Heaven. And so in other places. He affirms his being in Heaven, that is, with God, at the same time when he was in the earth; whereby He declares the immensity of his Nature, and the distinction of his person; and his coming down from Heaven before he was Incarnate on the earth, declaring his preexistence; by both manifesting the meaning of this Expression, that in the beginning he was with God. But hereunto they have invented a notable evasion. For although they know not well what to make of the last clause of the words, that say, then he was in Heaven when he spake on Earth; the Son of man which is in Heaven, answerable to the description of Gods Immensity, do not I fill Heaven and Earth saith the Lord, Jer. 23. 27. But say, ⟨p. 68⟩that he was there, by Heavenly meditation as another man may be; yet they give a very clear Answer to what must of necess••y be included in his descending from Heaven, namely his preexistence to his Incarnation. For they tell us, that before his public Ministry, he was in his humane nature, (which is all they allow unto him) taken up into Heaven, and there taught the Gospel; as the great Impostor Mahomet pretended he was taught his Alcoran; If you ask them, who told them so, they cannot tell; but th•y can tell when it was; namely, when he was led by the spirit into the Wilderness for forty days after his baptism. But yet this instance is subject to another her misadventure; in that one of the Evangelists plainly affirms that he was those forty days in the Wilderness with the wild beasts, Mark 17. 13. And so surely not in Heaven in the same nature by his bodily presence with God and his holy Angels.
And this is the same, which our Lord Jesus asserts concerning himself, John 3. 13. And no man, saith he, hath ascended up to Heaven, but he that came down from Heaven, even the Son of man which is in Heaven. And so in other places. He affirms his being in Heaven, that is, with God, at the same time when he was in the earth; whereby He declares the immensity of his Nature, and the distinction of his person; and his coming down from Heaven before he was Incarnate on the earth, declaring his preexistence; by both manifesting the meaning of this Expression, that in the beginning he was with God. But hereunto they have invented a notable evasion. For although they know not well what to make of the last clause of the words, that say, then he was in Heaven when he spake on Earth; the Son of man which is in Heaven, answerable to the description of Gods Immensity, do not I fill Heaven and Earth saith the Lord,