A57277:191
A brief declaration of the Lords Supper with some other determinations and disputations concerning…
A brief declaration of the Lords Supper with some other determinations and disputations concerning the same argument by the same author / written by Dr. Nicholas Ridley, Bishop of London during his imprisonment ; to which is annexed an extract of several passages to the same purpose out of a book entitled Diallacticon, written by Dr. John Poynet.A brief declaration of the Lords Supper with some other determinations and disputations concerning the same argument by the same author / written by Dr. Nicholas Ridley, Bishop of London during his imprisonment ; to which is annexed an extract of several passages to the same purpose out of a book intituled Diallacticon, written by Dr. John Poynet.
London: printed for Richard Chiswell, 1688
Mr. FOX 2d Volume of Acts and Monuments, Edit. London, 1684.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Rochest. O Mr. Langdale, I wis it becometh you not here to have such words.
Langd. If it like your good Lordship, I gave not the first occasion of them, but only did refute that which I was unjustly burdened withal, as reason doth require, and it grieved me to hear it. He saith, if it please your Lordship, that there is a mutation or change of the Bread after it is Consecrated; which if it be so, as I grant no less, then I would require of him, whether it be ⟨p. 37⟩changed in the Substance or in the Accidents, or else in both, or in nothing? No man can justly say, that there is a change into nothing. And all ancient Fathers do agree, that the same accidents are there still after, that were before; nor doth any Doctor say, That there is any mutation both of the Substance and Accidents also; Ergo, The Substance of Bread is changed into some other thing that is there really present under the forms of Bread and Wine, which by Christs words must needs be his own Blessed Body.
Langd. If it like your good Lordship, I gave not the first occasion of them, but only did refute that which I was unjustly burthened withall, as reason doth require, and it grieved me to hear it. He saith, if it please your Lordship, that there is a mutation or change of the Bread after it is Consecrated; which if it be so, as I grant no less, then I would require of him, whether it be ⟨p. 37⟩changed in the Substance or in the Accidents, or else in both, or in nothing? No man can justly say, that there is a change into nothing. And all ancient Fathers do agree, that the same accidents are there still after, that were before; nor doth any Doctor say, That there is any mutation both of the Substance and Accidents also; Ergo, The Substance of Bread is changed into some other thing that is there really present under the forms of Bread and Wine, which by Christs words must needs be his own Blessed Body.