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A peaceable and temperate plea for Pauls presbytery in Scotland, or, A modest and…A peaceable and temperate plea for Pauls presbyterie in Scotland, or, A modest and…
A peaceable and temperate plea for Pauls presbytery in Scotland, or, A modest and brotherly dispute of the government of the Church of Scotland wherein our discipline is demonstrated to be the true apostolic way of divine truth, and the arguments on the contrary are friendly dissolved, the grounds of separation and the independency [sic] of particular congregations, in defence of ecclesiastical presbyteries, synods, and assemblies, are examined and tried / by Samuel Rutherfurd ...A peaceable and temperate plea for Pauls presbyterie in Scotland, or, A modest and brotherly dispute of the government of the Church of Scotland wherein our discipline is demonstrated to be the true apostolick way of divine truth, and the arguments on the contrary are friendly dissolved, the grounds of separation and the indepencie [sic] of particular congregations, in defence of ecclesiasticall presbyteries, synods, and assemblies, are examined and tryed / by Samuell Rutherfurd ...
London: printed for John Bartlet, 1642London: printed for Iohn Bartlet, 1642
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Answ. If the power be abused wholly, it ceaseth and the Pastor before God, in foro interno, hath loosed his power; If it be abused in one or two acts, it is not loosed, else a King doing against judgment and justice, and a Pastor doing against piety should leave off to be a King, and Pastor; which is hard to affirm. 2. The power authoritative, is given by the Presbytery for the edification of the Church principally, and for the edifying of Synods and Elderships, Secondarily, but hence it followeth not that this power should be taken away by the Church of sole believers. Object. Synods (saith he) cannot be had ordinarily. Answ. So neither public preaching at some times; It followeth not therefore that public preaching is not a mean of edifying, because through accident, and iniquity of time the public preaching cannot be had.
Answ. If the power bee abused wholly, it ceaseth and the Pastor before God, in foro interno, hath losed his power; If it bee abused in one or two acts, it is not losed, else a King doing against judgment and justice, and a Pastor doing against pietie should leave off to be a King, and Pastor; which is hard to affirm. 2. The power authoritative, is given by the Presbytery for the edification of the Church principally, and for the edifying of Synods and Elderships, Secondarily, but hence it followeth not that this power should bee taken away by the Church of sole beleevers. Object. Synods (saith hee) cannot bee had ordinarily. Answ. So neither publike preaching at some times; It followeth not therefore that publike preaching is not a meane of edifying, because through accident, and iniquitie of time the publike preaching cannot be had.
8 Parker reasoneth from the stability of the Church. 1Where there is more stability, there is more authority, as our Divines reason, proving the Pope to be inferior to the Council. 1. A Church cannot be gathered in the name of Christ, but there is the power of Christ, 1 Cor. 5. 4.