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A survey of the spiritual antichrist opening the secrets of familism and antinomianism in…A survey of the spirituall antichrist opening the secrets of familisme and antinomianisme in…
A survey of the spiritual antichrist opening the secrets of familism and antinomianism in the antichristian doctrine of John Saltmarsh and Will. Del, the present preachers of the army now in England, and of Robert Town, by Samuel Rutherfurd ...A survey of the spirituall antichrist opening the secrets of familisme and antinomianisme in the antichristian doctrine of John Saltmarsh and Will. Del, the present preachers of the army now in England, and of Robert Town, by Samuel Rutherfurd ...
London: printed by J.D. & R.I. for Andrew Crooke, 1648
Part 1 › Chapter 30: Familists will have all externals indifferent.
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2. I am not of the Authors mind that Presbyterians and Independents as now they are, can have the same spirit of faith and prayer, except we say with H Nicholas, the first Elder of the family of love, that all externals in Religion, Presbyterians, Independents, Popes, Cardinals, Bishops, Priests, Deacons, Sextons, Services, Ceremonies, yea and the Church of Rome, till contentions arose about these as H N. Evangelie c. 32. c. 33. saith, are indifferent, and no ways unlawful. H. N. saith, his followers are subject to no Gods, no Laws, or Ceremonies, but only to the Lord their God, and to his most holy service of love, they are not likewise subject in bondage unto the creatures, neither yet to any created thing, but only to the Creator, &c, all their life, mind and delight only is in God, and God himself likewise with his mind, life or Spirit is in them, and they are even so of one conformity or substance with each other, namely God and his people, of peace, Spirit. l. and c. 55. l. 9. No wonder then this Author cry down outward forms, and cry up inward spiritual unity: For the same Spirit of faith they cannot […], that believe contradictory articles ⟨p. 252⟩of faith. But many that go under the name of Independents and Presbyterians, believe with Familists that Jesus Christ dyed not as true man for sinners, and that he dyed as true man for sinners; that the justified can sin, that the justified cannot sin; that the justified are perfect in this life, that the justified are not perfect in this life; that the justified ought to confess and crave pardon for sins, that they ought not to confess, and ought not to crave pardon for sins: For Saltmarsh telleth us, there are contradictions between the faith of Protestants touching Christ his birth, dying, crucifying, burial, ascending to heaven, &c. and of others (he means Familists and Antinomians) who have attained the highest and most glorious discoveries of the Spirit, Sparkles of glory, p. 185, 186, 187, 190, 191, 192, 198, 199, &c. then such Independents and Presbyterians, as the letter intendeth cannot have the same faith, except also we hold every mans conscience within to be his rule and faith, if he have love (as the Familists say) and that all faith or Religions without are indifferent, as Familists in their Petition to K. James, An.
2. I am not of the Authors minde that Presbyterians and Independents as now they are, can have the same spirit of faith and prayer, except we say with H Nicholas, the first Elder of the family of love, that all externalls in Religion, Presbyterians, Independents, Popes, Cardinals, Bishops, Priests, Deacons, Sextons, Services, Ceremonies, yea and the Church of Rome, till contentions arose about these as H N. Evangelie c. 32. c. 33. saith, are indifferent, and no wayes unlawfull. H. N. saith, his followers are subject to no Gods, no Lawes, or Ceremonies, but only to the Lord their God, and to his most holy service of love, they are not likewise subject in bondage unto the creatures, neither yet to any created thing, but only to the Creator, &c, all their life, minde and delight only is in God, and God himselfe likewise with his mind, life or Spirit is in them, and they are even so of one conformity or substance with each other, namely God and his people, of peace, Spirit. l. and c. 55. l. 9. No wonder then this Author cry downe outward formes, and cry up inward spirituall unity: For the same Spirit of faith they cannot , that beleeve contradictorie articles