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A trial of the new-church way in New-England and in old ... by that…A tryall of the nevv-church vvay in New-England and in old ... by that…
A trial of the new-church way in New-England and in old ... by that learned and godly minister of Christ, John Ball of Whitmore ; penned a little before his death and sent over to the New England ministers, anno 1637, as a reply to an answer of theirs in justification of the said positions ... ; now published ... by William Rathband and Simeon Ash.A tryall of the nevv-church vvay in New-England and in old ... by that learned and godly minister of Christ, John Ball of Whitmore ; penned a little before his death and sent over to the New England ministers, anno 1637, as a reply to an answer of theirs in justification of the said positions ... ; now published ... by William Rathband and Simeon Ash.
London: printed by T. Paine and M. Simmons for Thomas Underhill, 1644
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
3 The book (we speak of the Liturgy so far as it is sound and good) by your confession is no Idolathite, neither was it taken out of the Mass-book in such sense as you object, but rather the mass & other Idolatrous prayers were added to it, for popery is as a scab or leprosy cleaving to the Church; and many truths belonging to the Church as her proper legacy were stolen and heaped together in that den. ⟨p. 15⟩And why the true man may not challenge his goods where ever he finds them, or the thief plead title to the true mans goods by prescription, we know not? It is no hard task to show that our Service-book was reformed in most things according to the purest Liturgies which were in use in the Church long before the mass was heard of in the world. And if that could not be showed, yet forms of speech generally taken (we speak not of this or that special word or phrase) is no more defiled by Idolatry then the light air, or place where Idolatry is committed. It is not unlawful to pray, Lord help, or Lord have mercy, or to give thanks, praised be God, because the Papists say, Lady help, or, praised be God and the Virgin Mary.
3 The book (we speake of the Liturgie so far as it is sound and good) by your confession is no Idolathite, neither was it taken out of the Masse-book in such sense as you object, but rather the masse & other Idolatrous prayers were added to it, for popery is as a scab or leprosie cleaving to the Church; and many truths belonging to the Church as her proper legacie were stolen and heaped together in that denne. ⟨p. 15⟩And why the true man may not challenge his goods where ever he finds thē, or the thiefe plead title to the true mans goods by prescription, we know not? It is no hard taske to shew that our Service-booke was reformed in most things according to the purest Liturgies which were in use in the Church long before the masse was heard of in the world. And if that could not be shewed, yet formes of speech generally taken (we speak not of this or that speciall word or phrase) is no more defiled by Idolatry then the light aire, or place where Idolatry is committed. It is not unlawfull to pray, Lord helpe, or Lord have mercy, or to give thankes, praised bee God, because the Papists say, Lady helpe, or, praised be God and the Virgin Mary.