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A trial of the new-church way in New-England and in old ... by that…A tryall of the nevv-church vvay in New-England and in old ... by that…
A trial of the new-church way in New-England and in old ... by that learned and godly minister of Christ, John Ball of Whitmore ; penned a little before his death and sent over to the New England ministers, anno 1637, as a reply to an answer of theirs in justification of the said positions ... ; now published ... by William Rathband and Simeon Ash.A tryall of the nevv-church vvay in New-England and in old ... by that learned and godly minister of Christ, John Ball of Whitmore ; penned a little before his death and sent over to the New England ministers, anno 1637, as a reply to an answer of theirs in justification of the said positions ... ; now published ... by William Rathband and Simeon Ash.
London: printed by T. Paine and M. Simmons for Thomas Underhill, 1644
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
4 Seeing that book is so imposed as that the minister in reading of it, is limited to the very words set down without any diminution, addition, or alteration; therefore we dare not use it.
4 Seeing that booke is so imposed as that the minister in reading of it, is limited to the very words set downe without any diminution, addition, or alteration; therefore we dare not use it.
For 1 The Lord himself hath not limited his people to his own forms and therefore we see not, how it can be lawful to be limited to other mens forms; For in thus doing we should subject our selves to the exercise of such an authority and power of the Prelates, as in this case puts forth a stronger act of limiting power then Christ himself, who doth not limit us to those forms, which himself hath set down in Scripture: For though we acknowledge the Lords prayer and other forms set down in Scripture, may be lawfully used as prayers (due cautions being observed) yet there is not a limitation lying upon the Churches in the use of those prayers. And therefore we do not find that the Apostles ever used that form taught by Christ in those very words, much less limited themselves to it, when they prayed, nor did they teach the Churches so to do.
For 1 The Lord himselfe hath not limited his people to his own formes and therefore we see not, how it can be lawfull to be limited to other mens formes; For in thus doing we should subject our selves to the exercise of such an authority and power of the Prelates, as in this case puts forth a stronger act of limiting power then Christ himselfe, who doth not limit us to those formes, which himselfe hath set downe in Scripture: For though we acknowledge the Lords prayer and other formes set down in Scripture, may be lawfully used as prayers (due cautions being observed) yet there is not a limitation lying upon the Churches in the use of those prayers. And therefore we do not find that the Apostles ever used that form taught by Christ in those very words, much lesse limited themselvs to it, when they prayed, nor did they teach the Churches so to doe.